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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby mushy on Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:29 pm

mywhufc wrote:I’ve got problems with the way WHUISA is run

Really?
You've never mentioned this before.

Much.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby mushy on Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:35 pm

I'm in, although I don't do Facebook.
I am also with WHUISA, the more the merrier I say.

Well done Big George, that was a good recovery.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Alan Pardew's Dad on Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:42 pm

mushy wrote:Well done Big George, that was a good recovery.


Agreed.

I’m still backing WHUISA though and not sure that another group will do anything other than divide the fan base still further. Nevertheless, good luck, your aims are admirable.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:57 pm

We could have 10 different West Ham Supporter Groups each with 500 members or so or we could be represented by just 1 Group with thousands of members and be stronger - I'm sure ' Hammers United ' started their group in good faith and the best of luck to you but with WHUISA already in existence why didn't you think of just joining them instead of feeling you needed to start yet another group ?


Honest question .
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Doc H Ball on Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:17 am

Cos the mud stuck.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Samba on Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:55 am

The Old Man of Storr wrote:We could have 10 different West Ham Supporter Groups each with 500 members or so or we could be represented by just 1 Group with thousands of members and be stronger - I'm sure ' Hammers United ' started their group in good faith and the best of luck to you but with WHUISA already in existence why didn't you think of just joining them instead of feeling you needed to start yet another group ? Honest question .

You make a good point TOMoS, about one massive group carrying more weight than several different ones.
As Doc alluded to though, WHUISA, & every other group that were even just milling around one year ago & with all the unpleasantness that went on, their names are all now 'coloured' by & associated with those events; this new group are obviously trying to start with a clean slate. They're trying to do things slightly differently, than others did before. Of course, rightly or wrongly, Hammers United will themselves soon carry their own associations, along with their name.
I'm not saying it's at all fair that WHUISA now carry some 'baggage' as I don't see that they actually did much wrong, a year ago.
I wish both WHUISA & Hammers United good luck for the future.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Corney Beal on Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:29 am

[quote="The Old Man of Storr"]We could have 10 different West Ham Supporter Groups each with 500 members or so or we could be represented by just 1 Group with thousands of members and be stronger - I'm sure ' Hammers United ' started their group in good faith and the best of luck to you but with WHUISA already in existence why didn't you think of just joining them instead of feeling you needed to start yet another group ?

I feel the situation echoes that of Westminster right now. Okay, not quite as shambolic but breakaway groups surely just make the opposition weaker instead of sharing similar views in a greater force numerically at least.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Porkeyes on Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:06 am

All the best to the people who actually get off their arse and try to make a difference. My personal view is to not give the liars any money at all including not renewing / buying a season ticket and until they **** off this will be case for me. It hurts deep down but I'm not supporting them at all with my hard earned.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby The Moth on Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:34 am

So the main aim of this new group is to have dialogue with the owners? Havent we already seen this approach does not work? Weve had west ham social media types all meeting the club in the past claiming the club are interested in listening to them, nothing changes. Weve had different types of SAB , WHUISA , the RWHUFAG , all saying the same thing they want to represent the fans to have open dialogue with the owners, nothing changes.

For that reason Ive no interest in having any of these types of groups representing me as a supporter to be honest , but good luck to anyone involved.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby irving boleyn on Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:40 am

It is a good name, one which I wouldn't misspell.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Knighter10WHU on Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:11 pm

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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Kialos on Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:47 pm

Good luck with the launch. I was approached a while back on another board but sadly do not have time to devote any input in a meaningful way other than offer support by joining. I know those behind it are sincere and long standing fans.

I am also a member of WHUISA and RWHFAG ( before it went completely off grid) I think different fan groups can work together. I like that Hammers United is not going to get involved in things that could be seen as virtue signalling. It's a football thing, first and last for me.

All the above are more credible than what the club has set up, no disrespect to the fans involved. Most mean well I'm sure.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Northbank Bar on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:03 pm

The Moth.-Actually it seems to me they have been quite clever in their wording.Yes they say that they seek dialogue.-But go on to say that 'should the Board not deliver' they must be organised and ready and able to challenge them.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Condorhammer on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:27 pm

Kialos wrote:I am also a member of WHUISA and RWHFAG ( before it went completely off grid) I think different fan groups can work together. I like that Hammers United is not going to get involved in things that could be seen as virtue signalling. It's a football thing, first and last for me.

All the above are more credible than what the club has set up, no disrespect to the fans involved. Most mean well I'm sure.


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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Blow Bubbles on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:30 pm

I’m with TOMOS too... one group is what is needed. What I’m struggling to see if the difference between this new group and WHUISA? I’m not knocking the aim or the effort at all but I don’t understand why we need another group?

This isn’t a dig and I would genuinely welcome an answer!
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Albie Beck on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:31 pm

Alan Pardew's Dad wrote:Agreed.

I’m still backing WHUISA though and not sure that another group will do anything other than divide the fan base still further. Nevertheless, good luck, your aims are admirable.

It may appeal to others to whom WHUISA does not (for whatever reason). Therefore it could represent a wider range of fans when combined with WHUISA. If they can work together...

Kialos wrote:I think different fan groups can work together. I like that Hammers United is not going to get involved in things that could be seen as virtue signalling. It's a football thing, first and last for me.

Exactly...
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby OohAahButler on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:36 pm

I'm confused.

I'd back anybody who has the gumption to pull their finger out, organise, and try to do something for the rest of us. Good on you.

But...

If the very first stated aim is to engage the club's board, then why would they lead on the home page of their site with a poem which immediately points the finger at the board as being liars? It's hardly going to encourage them to want to engage, is it?
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Blow Bubbles on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:36 pm

Also, I can’t find any Facebook or Twitter presence... is it hidden or not in existence?

It seems to be either poorly planned or at least launched too early really. Hopefully they can iron that out before people decide they aren’t worth being taken seriously.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby e17 on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:39 pm

Blow Bubbles wrote:I’m with TOMOS too... one group is what is needed. What I’m struggling to see if the difference between this new group and WHUISA? I’m not knocking the aim or the effort at all but I don’t understand why we need another group?

This isn’t a dig and I would genuinely welcome an answer!

You’ve got people on this very thread explaining why the WHUISA is not for them.

Why not RWHUFAG?

On the one hand, people want just one group, and on the other they seem intent on it being one that has a track record of already having supporters who see it as “an enemy.”

Like them or not, there’s a big group of “leftwing Antifa haters” who will never EVER unite with WHUISA, and many of them were loud and active voices before the march was sidetracked.
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Re: Hammers United Launch

Postby Up the Junction on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:41 pm

Blow Bubbles wrote:Also, I can’t find any Facebook or Twitter presence... is it hidden or not in existence?

The story regarding HU on the home page of this very website links to the Facebook group.
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