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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby Billydinho on Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:41 am

Why was that a great substitution?

Penalty shootouts are a complete lottery. Van Gaal gambled and won but it was hardly tactically innovative.it could have just as easily backfired.

Tactical genius is spotting a weakness in the game no one else could and exploiting it. F*cking penalties may as well be a coin toss.
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby warp on Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:47 am

Charles Berstad wrote:What exactly have Germany (except Müller falling over easily two or three times over the course of five matches) and Argentina (except for being extremely dull) done wrong?

the argies were time-wasting as soon as they scored, hilarious!
and müller's real name is kuntz.


now i think the 'less worse' scenario is robben exploding his knee and holland winning it... :thdn:
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby paulthebubble on Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:55 am

Great effort from Costa Rica. Well done to them for getting this far.

The Dutchies are getting on my nerves-Robben flopping, RVP trying to con the ref instead of looking to score, the #4 with his 25 fouls, Krul's antics.
What about the Dutch asking for a yellow card for a hand ball when the ball struck the player in the shoulder?
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby Puff Daddy on Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:22 am

Van Gaal delivered a Krul blow to Costa Rica
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby BMLGirl on Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:25 am

AndyCarrollsBarber wrote:England are the true winners of this World Cup... By losing and departing with dignity.

You really think that? Unbelievable :lol:
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby e17 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:37 am

Some of Robbens acrobatics last night were borderline works of art - reminded me of Uncle Albert falling down the cellar of the Nags Head. Once you accept the bloke is always looking to fall rather than resist a tackle, it becomes fun comparing the histrionics that follow.

He is ultimately though the main reason why I want anyone else to win the thing. Had a soft spot for the Dutch going back to Euro 88 & yet can't cheer a team with that bloke instrumental in their success

His fitness levels are amazing though
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby D C on Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:22 pm

Billydinho wrote:Penalty shootouts are a complete lottery.


They really aren't.
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby Philosophical Dan on Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:33 pm

e17 wrote:His fitness levels are amazing though


More like "completely implausible unless he's been getting some extra help from his chemist".
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby artlin on Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:56 pm

PHEW ..................

that was close.
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby fmgod on Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:01 pm

Philosophical Dan wrote:More like "completely implausible unless he's been getting some extra help from his chemist".


Convinced of this even more after last nights games, without a doubt something fishy going on, no matter how fit someone is you can't do what he is doing naturally, even more so when you compare him to other players at the world cup. He's older than most, had a lot of injuries throughout career, just played a 45 game season yet in ridiculous temperatures and after a lot of games in a short space of time is running at full speed for 120 minutes and outpacing players who have played a lot less games and are younger.
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby Clucking Bell on Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:10 pm

e17 wrote:His fitness levels are amazing though


Philosophical Dan wrote:More like "completely implausible unless he's been getting some extra help from his chemist".


Whatever it is, it makes him look ancient! The ****er's only thirty but, he looks like he could get a bus pass.
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby e17 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:29 pm

He's 30?!? :shock:

Honestly thought he was a couple years younger than Ryan Giggs at best

He looks like he's in his fifties
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby James P on Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:36 pm

ooh look who it is wrote:Didn't Sir Bobby plan to sub Shilton for Beasent in Italia 90 against West Germany?


Something of an urban myth. In Italia 90 you still named five subs. You didn't have the rest of your squad available to sub in. Chris Woods was on the bench. Beasant wasn't.
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby Billydinho on Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:08 pm

D C wrote:
They really aren't.


:lol:

Here we go.

Enlighten me. As a goalkeeper with a decent penalty record, I can assure that if a penalty taker puts it in the top corner, you won't be saving it.
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby ooh look who it is on Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:59 pm

James P wrote:[

Something of an urban myth. In Italia 90 you still named five subs. You didn't have the rest of your squad available to sub in. Chris Woods was on the bench. Beasant wasn't.


Maybe it was Chris Woods then he planned to put on. What I meant anyway it had been done before whereas the media made out Van Gaal was the first bloke to swap keepers for a penalty shoot out. Good mind games though as whether he was or not the change made out that Krul was a penalty expert. Could have planted a seed of doubt in the Costa Ricans mind.
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby e17 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:43 pm

The Shilton/Beassant story came from Bobby Robson himself. Bout halfway down

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/bob ... on-one-one
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby ooh look who it is on Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:45 pm

Thanks e17
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby e17 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:01 pm

My pleasure mate.

Wonder if Van Gaal thought about Robsons decision? Read a few interviews where he's very very complimentary about Robson & his experience of him at Barca etc
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby James P on Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:43 pm

Whether Bobby Robson said that or not, the fact remains that Beasant wasn't a named substitute and couldn't have been brought on for the shoot out. Maybe Bobby's memory was playing him up.
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Re: Quarter Finals Costa Rica v Netherlands

Postby James P on Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:46 pm

Billydinho wrote:Enlighten me. As a goalkeeper with a decent penalty record, I can assure that if a penalty taker puts it in the top corner, you won't be saving it.


It's not a lottery as to which team's players are more likely to be able to put their penalties in the top corner. Nor is it a lottery as to which team's goalkeeper is more likely to save those that aren't put in an unreachable position.
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