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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby Rocketron on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:37 pm

pharaoh wrote:Moore would have got in but he would have put in Greaves. Peters probably not made the squad.

I beg to differ.
Ramsey was one of Peters' biggest fans, "10 years ahead of his time" was the famous quote.
Greaves did start the tournament, Hurst was brought in when Greaves was injured and Ramsey decided to keep him when Greaves regained fitness.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby bobcar on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:49 pm



Yes it was obviously fake even without the Arnason statement.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby WCpete on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:05 pm

So you don't think there would be people who take that statement and absolutely run with it?
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Postby The_Dead_Ball on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:20 pm

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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby bobcar on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:21 pm

WCpete wrote:So you don't think there would be people who take that statement and absolutely run with it?


Sorry I'm not sure what point you're making. The original quote was clearly fake, there is no way in a million years that Kane wouldn't realise we were out if we lost.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby pharaoh on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:22 pm

Rocketron wrote:I beg to differ.
Ramsey was one of Peters' biggest fans, "10 years ahead of his time" was the famous quote.
Greaves did start the tournament, Hurst was brought in when Greaves was injured and Ramsey decided to keep him when Greaves regained fitness.

Sorry but I was talking of the modern day with Hodgson in charge. What you say is correct.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby Iron Mark on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:28 pm

If someone asks what the strengths of the England team are, can anybody think of anything?

Between the way Hodgson set up and the how the players performed, I struggle to think of anything.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby pharaoh on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:29 pm

Iron Mark wrote:If someone asks what the strengths of the England team are, can anybody think of anything?

Between the way Hodgson set up and the how the players performed, I struggle to think of anything.

They are pretty good at losing and playing players out of position.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby sendô on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:24 pm

Passing sideways along the halfway line has always been a strength of ours.
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Postby westham,eggyandchips on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:38 pm

Iron Mark wrote:If someone asks what the strengths of the England team are, can anybody think of anything?



They're all stinking rich without conscience or any idea of the real world.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby ludo22 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:41 pm

pharaoh wrote:Moore would have got in but he would have put in Greaves. Peters probably not made the squad.


Jack Charlton said that Ramsey told him that he wasn't the best centre-half available for England but he was the most suited for the system Alf wanted to play.This was 50 years ago and what we subsequently learned was that this was exactly the correct way to manage the national team.Yet yesterday we witnessed a manager trying to shoehorn multiple players into unfamiliar positions or playing unfit because they play for "top" teams.A manager on 4 million quid a year who completely ignored and disregarded anything our only successful national manager knew to be the right thing.
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Postby goof on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:46 pm

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Postby DaveWHU1964 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:00 pm

Delighted that none of our players weren't associated with that bunch of ponderous, flat, bang average, no hopers.

England - if you ever want to have even a glimpse of winning something again - you know where we are :scarfer:
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Postby Iron-on-transfer on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:08 pm



Ahh...thanks for that man...I'm not on twitter so hadn't seen that. Thought it was somewhat strange yet I still stand by my observations - Joe Hart - you DO need to seriously look at yourself (or even better, retire from international football altogether)...and yeah, Kane - the light's on but nobody's in. :lol:
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby sendô on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:16 pm

Yep, the one saving grace here is no west ham players were tainted by that utter disaster.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby Sloffy on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:47 pm

Another player I would've took - not one of ours - is Ryan Shawcross.

Say what you like about him, but neither of those goals last night would've got past him.

I hate Hodgson. Really do.

Anyway what a difference 50 years makes. 1966 West Ham win the World Cup. 2016 Tottenham lose to f###ing Iceland :lol:
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby Lee_WHU on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:55 pm

The_Dead_Ball wrote:The True Geordie Verdict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3l_fTl4C0o


I was just about to post this, was sure nobody would have! Love this dude, cheered me up no end listening to him lay into Roy and co.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby Iron-on-transfer on Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:19 am

Sloffy wrote:Another player I would've took - not one of ours - is Ryan Shawcross.
Say what you like about him, but neither of those goals last night would've got past him.
I hate Hodgson. Really do.
Anyway what a difference 50 years makes. 1966 West Ham win the World Cup. 2016 Tottenham lose to f###ing Iceland


Agree. I know Shawcross is liable to give away stupid fouls but so are Cahill and Smalling and they're nowhere near as organised and commanding as Shawcross is. He'd sure as hell organise and tell other players what to do and where to be. We desperately need a natural leader on the pitch and preferably in defence and not halfway up the pitch. Someone vocal and with good spacial awareness. Dare I say it....someone like a John Terry? :hush:

As I've said previously, pick a team not just from the big clubs. Players not even necessarily super talented but just good honest hardworking types and get the team spirit and ethics right. A Wimbledon or Ipswich from yesteryear wouldn't have lost to Iceland.
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby bobcar on Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:02 am

Sloffy wrote:Another player I would've took - not one of ours - is Ryan Shawcross.

Say what you like about him, but neither of those goals last night would've got past him.


I'm not against Shawcross being in the squad but he couldn't have stopped the first goal. There was a general lack of organisation but the big single factor was Walker not marking his man properly, if he does his job then he keeps goal side of the Iceland player and he can't score unless he does something brilliant, instead Walker let him run through and score. How difficult is it to to do a basic thing like mark someone rather than ball watch?
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Re: Hodgson: let's see if his no Hammers policy is vindicated.

Postby Eggs'n'nuts on Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:57 am

The_Dead_Ball wrote:The True Geordie Verdict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3l_fTl4C0o


Hits every nail on the head, driving them clean into the coffins of The FA, Roy and the whole squad!
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