Collins in Welsh squad
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- MrTwoIrons
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad
No surprise really...
Collins has been in the Wales squad since 2004, lets hope he doesn't ruin it like he did in 2012 against Belgium, I still remember that 2 footer against Gillet.
Collins has been in the Wales squad since 2004, lets hope he doesn't ruin it like he did in 2012 against Belgium, I still remember that 2 footer against Gillet.
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If he doesn't actually play in the Euros at all, will he still get extra time off before the start of the new season?
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad
Jim Aldgate wrote:seems to be enjoying himself ....
Why wouldn't he? A team of overly entitled, arrogant, Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal, City and MU players got what was coming to them.
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Yes he will still be training and keeping fit, actually playing doesn't make much difference to that.southbrishammer wrote:If he doesn't actually play in the Euros at all, will he still get extra time off before the start of the new season?
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I find it extremely distasteful as I would if England celebrated in that manner for Wales or anyone else losing.WCpete wrote: Why wouldn't he? A team of overly entitled, arrogant, Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal, City and MU players got what was coming to them.
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There's nothing distasteful about celebrating your rival's elimination. You might have an argument with it being disrespectful by posting the video in the public domain. But celebrating? No chance.
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The rival point is what many will have problems with. Many England fans will support England and want the home nations to do well. The Welsh players have shown that is clearly not returned. Happy to play with English team mates, be supported by English fans at club level and take their pay cheques from the English league yet still so happy when England fail.WCpete wrote:There's nothing distasteful about celebrating your rival's elimination. You might have an argument with it being disrespectful by posting the video in the public domain. But celebrating? No chance.
Wanting to beat England and celebrating when they are knocked out, especially when they were unlikely to meet again in the tournament, are very different.
I wonder what their English captain made of it.
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so?Iron Mark wrote:The rival point is what many will have problems with. Many England fans will support England and want the home nations to do well. The Welsh players have shown that is clearly not returned.
yep, they should be eternally grateful to mother england and humbly worship the ground where rooney walks. ffs!Iron Mark wrote:Happy to play with English team mates, be supported by English fans at club level and take their pay cheques from the English league yet still so happy when England fail.
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Or show a small amount of respect maybe?warp wrote: yep, they should be eternally grateful to mother england and humbly worship the ground where rooney walks. ffs!
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Probably not wise to post online, but that's footballers
I have supported Wales throughout (other than the England game) but I will be a bit meh
I have supported Wales throughout (other than the England game) but I will be a bit meh
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It is something as English people we'll never understand.
The disdain for the English is instilled in them from an early age as it's good for the lower classes to be the victim of some kind of oppression - even one that hasn't existed for hundreds of years.
You could try and debate with them their merits of blindly detesting an entire nation or the historical inaccuracies of Braveheart but as a wiser man than me once said, you can't argue with stupidity as they'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
The disdain for the English is instilled in them from an early age as it's good for the lower classes to be the victim of some kind of oppression - even one that hasn't existed for hundreds of years.
You could try and debate with them their merits of blindly detesting an entire nation or the historical inaccuracies of Braveheart but as a wiser man than me once said, you can't argue with stupidity as they'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Or maybe they were celebrating because they fancy themselves against Iceland over England?
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I think the whole World celebrated last night, even some English people were laughing and enjoying it, the bunch of arrogant mugs got what was coming to them. I live and work in England but celebrated as I'm Welsh and have taken a dislike to the England set up, should I not be paid by my English employers for celebrating an England defeat?
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Their celebrations were disproportionate and put on in my opinion.
I don't believe that was genuine at all. They couldn't celebrate more vigorously if they'd won the tournament themselves.
Quite sad really but if that's how they're generating team spirit and camaraderie then I guess it's understandable.
I don't believe that was genuine at all. They couldn't celebrate more vigorously if they'd won the tournament themselves.
Quite sad really but if that's how they're generating team spirit and camaraderie then I guess it's understandable.
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Their greatest team in their history, one of the very worst in ours.
Still beat them when we played, and despite that they have gone further in the competition than us and are still in with a shot at winning the lot, yet will always have that chip on their shoulders about the English.
I quite enjoyed it, shows them up for the small-time principality that they really are
Still beat them when we played, and despite that they have gone further in the competition than us and are still in with a shot at winning the lot, yet will always have that chip on their shoulders about the English.
I quite enjoyed it, shows them up for the small-time principality that they really are
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We are not privy to what is said between English and Welsh players in private - I can only presume that some of the Welsh Premiership players were goaded by their English counterparts after the defeat in the Group Stage and the Welsh reacted to that ? Just guessing here .
Personally as a Welshman with an English wife I was disappointed and embarrassed by the reaction of the Welsh players to the English defeat , it was classless as some of you on here have already said .
I fully understand if some on here react in the same way as the Scots do whenever England play which in its own way is classless .
Personally as a Welshman with an English wife I was disappointed and embarrassed by the reaction of the Welsh players to the English defeat , it was classless as some of you on here have already said .
I fully understand if some on here react in the same way as the Scots do whenever England play which in its own way is classless .