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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby MrTwoIrons on Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:30 am

No surprise really...

Collins has been in the Wales squad since 2004, lets hope he doesn't ruin it like he did in 2012 against Belgium, I still remember that 2 footer against Gillet.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby Jim Aldgate on Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:23 pm

seems to be enjoying himself ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQF8x-SCCco
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby southbrishammer on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:42 pm

If he doesn't actually play in the Euros at all, will he still get extra time off before the start of the new season?
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby WCpete on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:48 pm

Jim Aldgate wrote:seems to be enjoying himself ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQF8x-SCCco



Why wouldn't he? A team of overly entitled, arrogant, Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal, City and MU players got what was coming to them.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby bobcar on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:56 pm

southbrishammer wrote:If he doesn't actually play in the Euros at all, will he still get extra time off before the start of the new season?


Yes he will still be training and keeping fit, actually playing doesn't make much difference to that.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby bobcar on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:58 pm

WCpete wrote:Why wouldn't he? A team of overly entitled, arrogant, Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal, City and MU players got what was coming to them.


I find it extremely distasteful as I would if England celebrated in that manner for Wales or anyone else losing.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby WCpete on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:07 pm

There's nothing distasteful about celebrating your rival's elimination. You might have an argument with it being disrespectful by posting the video in the public domain. But celebrating? No chance.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby Iron Mark on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:26 pm

WCpete wrote:There's nothing distasteful about celebrating your rival's elimination. You might have an argument with it being disrespectful by posting the video in the public domain. But celebrating? No chance.


The rival point is what many will have problems with. Many England fans will support England and want the home nations to do well. The Welsh players have shown that is clearly not returned. Happy to play with English team mates, be supported by English fans at club level and take their pay cheques from the English league yet still so happy when England fail.

Wanting to beat England and celebrating when they are knocked out, especially when they were unlikely to meet again in the tournament, are very different.

I wonder what their English captain made of it.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby warp on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:31 pm

Iron Mark wrote:The rival point is what many will have problems with. Many England fans will support England and want the home nations to do well. The Welsh players have shown that is clearly not returned.


so?



Iron Mark wrote:Happy to play with English team mates, be supported by English fans at club level and take their pay cheques from the English league yet still so happy when England fail.

yep, they should be eternally grateful to mother england and humbly worship the ground where rooney walks. ffs!
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby Iron Mark on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:41 pm

Some people like to be friends with their neighbours, but I guess the world is a better place if we just hate everyone instead.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby Iron Mark on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:42 pm

warp wrote:yep, they should be eternally grateful to mother england and humbly worship the ground where rooney walks. ffs!


Or show a small amount of respect maybe?
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby Rocketron on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:43 pm

The Welsh, Scots and Irish will always celebrate when we lose, because we conquered them.
Nothing new to see here. :wink:
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby RichieRiv on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:36 pm

Probably not wise to post online, but that's footballers

I have supported Wales throughout (other than the England game) but I will be a bit meh
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby XIRONSX on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:37 pm

It is something as English people we'll never understand.
The disdain for the English is instilled in them from an early age as it's good for the lower classes to be the victim of some kind of oppression - even one that hasn't existed for hundreds of years.

You could try and debate with them their merits of blindly detesting an entire nation or the historical inaccuracies of Braveheart but as a wiser man than me once said, you can't argue with stupidity as they'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby thejackhammer on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:20 pm

Or maybe they were celebrating because they fancy themselves against Iceland over England?
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby Jumby on Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:01 am

I think the whole World celebrated last night, even some English people were laughing and enjoying it, the bunch of arrogant mugs got what was coming to them. I live and work in England but celebrated as I'm Welsh and have taken a dislike to the England set up, should I not be paid by my English employers for celebrating an England defeat?
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby fjthegrey on Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:18 am

Their celebrations were disproportionate and put on in my opinion.

I don't believe that was genuine at all. They couldn't celebrate more vigorously if they'd won the tournament themselves.

Quite sad really but if that's how they're generating team spirit and camaraderie then I guess it's understandable.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby Denbighammer on Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:03 am

Not sure what they're jumping about for - they lost their Cup Final.
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby HarlowEssexHammer on Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:29 am

Their greatest team in their history, one of the very worst in ours.

Still beat them when we played, and despite that they have gone further in the competition than us and are still in with a shot at winning the lot, yet will always have that chip on their shoulders about the English.

I quite enjoyed it, shows them up for the small-time principality that they really are
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Re: Collins in Welsh squad

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:12 am

We are not privy to what is said between English and Welsh players in private - I can only presume that some of the Welsh Premiership players were goaded by their English counterparts after the defeat in the Group Stage and the Welsh reacted to that ? Just guessing here .
Personally as a Welshman with an English wife I was disappointed and embarrassed by the reaction of the Welsh players to the English defeat , it was classless as some of you on here have already said .

I fully understand if some on here react in the same way as the Scots do whenever England play which in its own way is classless .
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