3rd place
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- Noble Man
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3rd place
As it stands tonight Northern Ireland are TOP of the best placed teams to go through. Don't really care who we might play, but saying that nobody scares me so far, but to get through would be unbelievable.
All of Northern Ireland has bought into the competition so far and to get to the quarters would be quite simply unbelievable!!
All of Northern Ireland has bought into the competition so far and to get to the quarters would be quite simply unbelievable!!
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Re: 3rd place
It's a strange one, hard to work out, but if we (norn iron) come 3Rd, and qualify, which we might not, but we could well meet England!! Yeeeeeeooooooooo, Healy!!
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Re: 3rd place
Glancing through the tables and last fixtures, it seems a lot of groups could easily produce 3rd place teams on 4 points.
Belgium have to be careful. If they lose to Sweden, I don't think they'll get through on 3.
Belgium have to be careful. If they lose to Sweden, I don't think they'll get through on 3.
- James P
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Re: 3rd place
For me Albania are gone and it's four from the remaining five groups. Albania have 3pts and -2 GD. They also have the added handicap that all remaining teams know that and will react accordingly.
Not sure who the other faller will be though but I think Northern Ireland should probably feel that a single goal defeat to Germany would see them sneak through.
Not sure who the other faller will be though but I think Northern Ireland should probably feel that a single goal defeat to Germany would see them sneak through.
- il_martello_di_genovesi
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Re: 3rd place
Albania's route through does require some favours, but it's not an impossible task. 11/8 an average price for them to qualify...
They need Czech, Republic Of Ireland and Sweden not to win, who face Turkey, Italy and Belgium. If one of those do win, they can still go through with a Portugal defeat and Austria not to win, or a heavy defeat for someone elsewhere. (That is of course harder).
3 points could be enough, due to the possibility of Group D and E producing teams on 2 points or less.
Republic Of Ireland are obviously most vulnerable if they get to 4 points...
I don't see any of the 2 teams in Group E winning their game, so I personally think it's going to be down to the Czechs not winning seeing Northern Ireland and Albania through.
They need Czech, Republic Of Ireland and Sweden not to win, who face Turkey, Italy and Belgium. If one of those do win, they can still go through with a Portugal defeat and Austria not to win, or a heavy defeat for someone elsewhere. (That is of course harder).
3 points could be enough, due to the possibility of Group D and E producing teams on 2 points or less.
Republic Of Ireland are obviously most vulnerable if they get to 4 points...
I don't see any of the 2 teams in Group E winning their game, so I personally think it's going to be down to the Czechs not winning seeing Northern Ireland and Albania through.
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Re: 3rd place
So we (ni), need a very unlikely turkey win, or Belgium to beat Sweden, or Italy to beat Ireland!? Or is it not that simple!!?????
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Re: 3rd place
Lots of chances for NI. Just need one remaining 3rd place team to have a worse record.
Turkey win or draw
Eire and Sweden fail to win
Needs Portugal to win and a decisive result in the Iceland game to deny you.
80% chance of going through at least.
Turkey win or draw
Eire and Sweden fail to win
Needs Portugal to win and a decisive result in the Iceland game to deny you.
80% chance of going through at least.
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Re: 3rd place
Was really pleased the NI - Germany game ended 0:1, think it's very likely now NI get through to the finals
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Re: 3rd place
There's been a lot of dross finishing third, sides that have lost two out of three shouldn't be going through, Northern Ireland had a great result against Ukraine but they've lost their two other games so it shouldn't be good enough.
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Re: 3rd place
I actually think the fact Portugal are through on 3 draws ahead of any of the teams who have won a game is worse. Albania and Turkey both won a game. They have a head to head rule in the groups and act like GD is worthless. The should have done the best 3rd places on games won to split anyone on 3 points.Jumby wrote:There's been a lot of dross finishing third, sides that have lost two out of three shouldn't be going through, Northern Ireland had a great result against Ukraine but they've lost their two other games so it shouldn't be good enough.
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Re: 3rd place
It should always be the top 2 and no more in a 4 team group, if need be have 32 teams, although that would make qualifying for the tournament fairly easy for most. Like you say, Portugal have dribbled across the line and don't deserve it, whilst Albania and Northern Ireland are a plucky bunch but they have not been good enough to deserve to go through.