England v Iceland....

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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby Puff Daddy on Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:54 am




Hard to disagree with him. If it's passion you want, could a lot worse than him for the job . He talks sense
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby westham,eggyandchips on Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:34 am

Neville and Lewington seem to have been let off very lightly on this whole debacle in which they both had a huge input.
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby sendô on Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:27 am

If Leicester can win the PL then England can win a major tournament. We just need to play to our strengths and not kid ourselves that we can play pass and move as good as the big teams.
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby Kludgehammer on Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:15 pm

uptonparkhurst wrote:[whatever system you play the players must be technically skilled enough to move the ball quickly and to receive the ball under pressure. We are still way behind Spain, Italy and Germany, judging by results in this tournament.
Most teams these days are very fit and press relentlessly. Reverting to our traditional "up-and-at-em"
approach will only get us so far.


Absolutely right, and I'll add continually moving into space to receive the ball - something which England are shocking at, as are West Ham most of the time.
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby westhamshares on Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:04 pm

interesting to note that in the verbal tirade the geordie mentions if you listen carefully, antonio who really was a player that england needed as on his ownhe could change a game

although noble is not unfortunately really international class he would have died for the england cause which could not be said of the dicks who were picked and again would have been a better choice than that appropriately named dier.

if there is one lesson to be learnt England wont pick so many spurs players in the future they bottled it like they do every season in the league
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby fjthegrey on Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:12 pm

International class.

Perhaps the most delusional and pointless description of talent there is. Don't fall for it my friend. If you're a premier league player, you're international class. If you're a championship player, you may well be international class. It just depends on the national team. And it depends on how well you can execute a specific tactical task as to whether you are good enough.
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby Johnny Byrne's Boots on Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:28 pm

Spot on FJ

Are the Icelandics 'international Class'? How many would start in a Premier League game?
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby Zman39 on Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:19 pm

fjthegrey wrote:International class.

Perhaps the most delusional and pointless description of talent there is. Don't fall for it my friend. If you're a premier league player, you're international class. If you're a championship player, you may well be international class. It just depends on the national team. And it depends on how well you can execute a specific tactical task as to whether you are good enough.


Exactly. Cuadrado from Colombia is a great example. One of the most important players on a very good Colombia team but looked crap for Chelsea
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby Eggs'n'nuts on Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:38 pm

Exactly. Cuadrado from Colombia is a great example. One of the most important players on a very good Colombia team but looked crap for Chelsea[/quote]

Could almost say the same about Valencia.
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby Beavis Danzig on Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:47 pm

phil jones is an international class central midfielder.

let that one sink in.
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby JerseyHammer on Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:55 am

International class is not enough to describe the talents of some however...

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In all seriousness I completely agree that "international class" is a crock of ****, it doesn't really mean anything.

An international class manager, however, is something a bit different.
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Re: England v Iceland....

Postby Dyl on Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:22 am

fjthegrey wrote:International class.

Perhaps the most delusional and pointless description of talent there is. Don't fall for it my friend. If you're a premier league player, you're international class. If you're a championship player, you may well be international class. It just depends on the national team. And it depends on how well you can execute a specific tactical task as to whether you are good enough.


Exactly. noble not 'International class'. Do me a favour.
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