Who next for England?

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Who next for England?

Postby ironilunga on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:00 am

Anger courses through my veins when I allow myself to think of the limp wet lettuces that have occupied the England hot seat throughout the best years of my life. They have generally shared the following qualities;

Tactically inept, blindly loyal,lacking courage to drop 'star players', shoehorning players into a team at the expense of the system, lacking no passion and unable to motivate their squad.

So two questions;

1. Who would you give it to
2. Who do you think will actually get it?
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby 1966 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:05 am

1. Nigel Clough
2. Nigel Clough
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby ironilunga on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:08 am

1966 wrote:1. Nigel Clough
2. Nigel Clough



Good lord.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby ironilunga on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:13 am

Lock this loser of a thread up. Just seen the real McCoy in GD.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby E13whu on Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:29 am

Southgate...with Stuart Pearce as his coach, motivator and the person you go to when you deliver performances like last night.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby Puff Daddy on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:04 am

1966 wrote:1. Nigel Clough
2. Nigel Clough


Don't know about that, but is it really beyond the realms of scientific engineering physicians cannot clone his old man from his DNA ?
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby bobbymooresbracelet on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:38 am

Quite frankly I couldnt care less at the moment, whoever inherits this bunch of ****ing deadwood is in for a rough time.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby Denbighammer on Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:39 am

Manuel Pellegrini?
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby vietnammer on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:09 am

Ken Dodd
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby bobbymooresbracelet on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:14 am

vietnammer wrote:Ken Dodd


You've been on the Knotty Hash.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby sjb958 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:37 am

THE DUDLEY DINOSAUR
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby Puff Daddy on Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:45 pm

.... or a clone of Sir Alf Ramsay, by far the best manager England's ever had.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby Jumby on Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:32 pm

Give it to Redknapp just for a laugh :lol:
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby 1966 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:07 pm

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Good lord.[/quote]

Was tongue in cheek but have you seen the names of the has-been managers being mentioned elsewhere?
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby sendô on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:07 pm

Allardyce.

You may all laugh, but the alternatives are not great, and he at least knows how to get the best out of a group of average players, and he most certainly would not compromise his system to shoe-horn in the odd "star".

Who cares about attractive football at major international tournaments anyway? We just want to win it.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby bobcar on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:14 pm

sendô wrote:Allardyce.

You may all laugh, but the alternatives are not great, and he at least knows how to get the best out of a group of average players, and he most certainly would not compromise his system to shoe-horn in the odd "star".

Who cares about attractive football at major international tournaments anyway? We just want to win it.


He's the obvious candidate. He's never had a serious failure and he's too pig headed to be overly influenced by the media or big club syndrome. I don't think he would be so defensive with better players but at the same time I can't imagine a BS team defending the way England did for Iceland's first goal.

BS teams tend to over perform whereas England under perform when it matters. The last decent manager England had was Hoddle and Blair made sure he was gone.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby iLoveLasagne on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:32 pm

I think the problem with England players is that they are simply too big for their boots. We need a manager who will be firm with players but at the same time instill drive and determination in players to want to play for their shirt. The manager should command respect but it seems like the other way round. The bigger egos think that their place in the squad is cemented.

If regulars are so assured of their position do the rest feel it is futile trying to force their way in? And if by some miracle they get any sniff of a chance they are under so much pressure to perform perfectly it is unreal whereas your Wilsheres, Harts, Sterlings can make mistake after mistake and still be protected. England were the most star-studded team at the Euros but they were the least cohesive. The Premier League as an entity is a massive part of the problem.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby iLoveLasagne on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:37 pm

Would BFS do that much better than previous managers? He may make England solid and hard to beat but being in major finals is about winning and beating the top sides.

I'd pick Biesla.
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Re: Who next for England?

Postby westham,eggyandchips on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:59 pm

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Re: Who next for England?

Postby bobcar on Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:07 pm

iLoveLasagne wrote:Would BFS do that much better than previous managers? He may make England solid and hard to beat but being in major finals is about winning and beating the top sides.


That is the first step, without that you have nothing. Hodgson's team was definitely more attacking than any previously but their defending was woeful and that was the main trigger for last nights display. Walker was lauded early on for his performances but when it came down to a large part of his actual job - defending - he was shown up to be the worst full back in the competition.

I'd pick Biesla.


Please no foreign managers, even if they are better the manager should be English.
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