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World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby HammerMan2004 on Tue May 15, 2018 11:58 am

Officially announced tomorrow. Breaking news today though, Joe Hart will not be included, as per various media outlets.

Fair play to Southgate. There was no real reason to take Hart and he's simply not delivered.
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Re: World Cup Squad

Postby fmgod on Tue May 15, 2018 12:05 pm

Cresswell should stand half a chance as only one of the only left footed ball playing centre backs or as a left wing back.

If Hart isn't it, this is exactly why you play other keepers and spread it around during the group stages, we will go into the World Cup with a goalkeeper who hasn't played one competitive fixture.
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Re: World Cup Squad

Postby chigwells finest on Tue May 15, 2018 12:12 pm

fmgod wrote:Cresswell should stand half a chance as only one of the only left footed ball playing centre backs or as a left wing back.

If Hart isn't it, this is exactly why you play other keepers and spread it around during the group stages, we will go into the World Cup with a goalkeeper who hasn't played one competitive fixture.



imo, cresswell should be nowhere near an england squad .
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Re: World Cup Squad

Postby fmgod on Tue May 15, 2018 12:17 pm

chigwells finest wrote:imo, cresswell should be nowhere near an england squad .


Who are the alternative left backs or even left footed CB's in a back three?

Young and Delph not in a million years
Betrand has been poor and just relegated
Rose has barely played
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Re: World Cup Squad

Postby Briggsy on Tue May 15, 2018 12:17 pm

I think there's already threads in the World cup section of the forum

viewforum.php?f=22

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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby Row X on Tue May 15, 2018 12:21 pm

:scarfer:

He's ****
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Re: World Cup Squad

Postby chigwells finest on Tue May 15, 2018 12:23 pm

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chigwells finest wrote:imo, cresswell should be nowhere near an england squad .


Who are the alternative left backs or even left footed CB's in a back three?

Young and Delph not in a million years
Betrand has been poor and just relegated
Rose has barely played[/quote]


my mum and shes 85 and has a better right foot tbh
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby Het-Field on Tue May 15, 2018 12:24 pm

I have no skin in the game, but Cresswell has not done nearly enough to justify inclusion. Ryan Sessengnon should be on the plane well before Cresswell.
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby Hemel Iron on Tue May 15, 2018 12:32 pm

Not that it changes the point, but Bertrand has not just been relegated.
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby Crouchend_Hammer on Tue May 15, 2018 12:36 pm

Someone made a good point in the media the other day. The 3rd choice keeper has a miniscule chance of getting game time, so it can often make more sense to pick an experienced player who can add to the dressing room/ squad camaraderie and provide advice to the other two

Given the inexperience of the rest of our keepers, taking Hart along may not have been a bad idea

I would go with Pope as first choice though (no way it will happen)
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby il_martello_di_genovesi on Tue May 15, 2018 12:37 pm

fmgod wrote:
Who are the alternative left backs or even left footed CB's in a back three?

Young and Delph not in a million years
Betrand has been poor and just relegated
Rose has barely played


What makes you think he is bothered about a left footed centre back? He has used Gomez, Walker, Stones and Maguire...none of which are left footed.

Cresswell has been praised on here for his contribution to our attack, not our defence. He has been poor on plenty of occasions in our back 3. Not sure why you mention Young or Delph either...why would either be considered for a CB position? Cresswell should only be considered in his natural position, in which case he still doesn’t get in. Delph has been fantastic this season for example, and should be ahead of Cresswell for sure.
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby Patito on Tue May 15, 2018 12:47 pm

il_martello_di_genovesi wrote:Not sure why you mention Young or Delph either...why would either be considered for a CB position?



Think you misread his post.
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby sendô on Tue May 15, 2018 12:56 pm

Cresswell shouldn't be in. He'll probably get in purely for that free kick against the OMG Soccerball Champions Manchester Blue.
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Re: World Cup Squad

Postby ageing hammer on Tue May 15, 2018 1:09 pm

fmgod wrote:
chigwells finest wrote:
Cresswell should be nowhere near an England squad .


Cresswell should be nowhere near a West Ham squad :D
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby the celestial insect on Tue May 15, 2018 4:12 pm

I feel a bit sorry for Hart, but you can't argue with the decision. Our defence has been a farce at times, to say nothing of the idiotic shenanigans, such as Sullivan telling the world (and our two existing keepers) that Hart is the best. Yes, he's cost a fortunate and wasn't needed to begin with, but that's hardly his fault, and he's always conducted himself well.

Not for us, or for England presently, but good luck to him in the future.
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby hammers92 on Tue May 15, 2018 4:25 pm

I'd have taken Hart as 3rd choice as Butland and Pickford have no experience of playing for England or living with the pressure of a mistake, Think Hart may have been useful there but I also can't disagree with Pope going who's also been excellent this year.
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby hammerheadjim on Tue May 15, 2018 5:16 pm

The party line that Lallana and Delph will be named, but Wilshere misses out...
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby somerset-hammer on Wed May 16, 2018 8:09 am

Hart blaming Moyes for being axed from the England squad, try looking in the mirror you limp wristed, dandruff riddled, flapping ****
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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby rciron on Wed May 16, 2018 8:18 am

somerset-hammer wrote:Hart blaming Moyes for being axed from the England squad, try looking in the mirror you limp wristed, dandruff riddled, flapping ****

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Re: World Cup Squad: Hart out

Postby Patito on Wed May 16, 2018 8:44 am

somerset-hammer wrote:Hart blaming Moyes for being axed from the England squad, try looking in the mirror you limp wristed, dandruff riddled, flapping ****



Image


He's got no one to blame but himself!
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