Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

All discussion relating to international tournaments including qualifying groups/matches. Since 2006.

Moderators: Gnome, last.caress, Wilko1304, Rio, bristolhammerfc, the pink palermo, chalks

Post Reply
User avatar
DasNutNock
Posts: 12302
Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:41 pm
Location: R Tape loading error, 0:1

Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by DasNutNock »

Christ, what an absolute roll-call of sh*te. 2 knockout games won since 1990 :)

Still, we do rather like to slaughter our managers. The press are proper scum aren’t they.
User avatar
e17
Posts: 17957
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:52 pm
Location: Deep deep down
Has liked: 280 likes
Total likes: 940 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by e17 »

The Sam bit was well funny though :lol: blink and you’ll miss him
User avatar
DasNutNock
Posts: 12302
Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:41 pm
Location: R Tape loading error, 0:1

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by DasNutNock »

Fair play to him for agreeing to sit in front of a camera and explain how much of a bell end he was to lose the gig after 1 game.
User avatar
e17
Posts: 17957
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:52 pm
Location: Deep deep down
Has liked: 280 likes
Total likes: 940 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by e17 »

As soon as he walked onscreen and smiled it was clear he was going to be honest

Mental the FA genuinely thought he wouldn’t be cannon fodder with his track record
User avatar
Rust
Posts: 814
Joined: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:21 pm
Has liked: 126 likes
Total likes: 86 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by Rust »

Really interesting seeing the past all threaded together like that. When you look atit like that it makes you realise how unbelievably calamitous England have been at World Cups.

Felt really sorry for Big Sam... by the sounds of it he'd happily take that meeting again even with hindsight.
Last edited by Rust on Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Online
User avatar
sendô
Posts: 44309
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:41 pm
Location: rubbing my eyes in disbelief - we've won a European trophy!
Has liked: 2426 likes
Total likes: 2636 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by sendô »

No missed it, worth watching on iplayer if it's on there?

Calamitous, but we've been unlucky. Out on pens in 90, Hand of God in 86. Pens after a disallowed goal in 98, unlucky to lose to worthy winners in 2002 after being one of the better teams in the tourney, pens in 06, disallowed equaliser in 10. Crap in 14 and dnq in 94 notwithstanding.

2002 was a kicker. After beating the Argies in the group and thrashing the Danes I thought we had a good chance.

Fine margins and all that.
User avatar
e17
Posts: 17957
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:52 pm
Location: Deep deep down
Has liked: 280 likes
Total likes: 940 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by e17 »

Definitely worth watching

Interesting how Sven came across as still having a level of passion and affection for his time, while Capello and Roy didn’t
User avatar
simonirons
Posts: 6937
Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:51 pm
Location: Grandads a liar
Has liked: 372 likes
Total likes: 159 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by simonirons »

Quite enjoyed it to be honest, probably could of been a 2 parter.

The press when it comes to the England manager are ridiculous, listening to Winter, it almost sounds like they believe they have a say in it.

The problem with our squad these days is they are petrified any mistake, red card, own goal, missed penalty and they will be absolutely crucified by the media. - I believe the media share the same amount of blame as the F.A for the shambles our national team are.

Río saying Hoddle was the best manager he ever played under, was way ahead of the curve and some of his ideas are being implemented today.

Let’s be honest, it’s a sh*t job. - Pretty mundane but pays well.
User avatar
Korea Hammer
Posts: 11447
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:23 pm
Location: Shoreham-By-Sea
Has liked: 1316 likes
Total likes: 771 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by Korea Hammer »

I'm not saying he didn't deserve to lose the job, but on a human level you just have to feel sorry for Sam.
User avatar
Harry Hound
Posts: 4020
Joined: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:25 pm
Location: "If you don't know the game, then you're still part of it"
Has liked: 67 likes
Total likes: 10 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by Harry Hound »

simonirons wrote:
Río saying Hoddle was the best manager he ever played under, was way ahead of the curve and some of his ideas are being implemented today.
I always thought this, he may have been very abrasive and the "faith healer" situation was bizarre but he knew how to play football.
fmgod
Posts: 19333
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:54 pm
Has liked: 50 likes
Total likes: 145 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by fmgod »

Capello was the best manager we had, just look at the man's CV, big problem was he didn't seem that bothered and the players didn't want to listen/obey his quite strict methods, which are lets be honest are proven to work but the England players didn't buy into it.
User avatar
Faithless
Posts: 2312
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:09 pm
Location: On a bubble nearing the sky.....Born 7 days too late...39 years n counting...Win a cup lads...

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by Faithless »

The 2 things I got from it was:

1) The press love to entrap an England manager just before a major tournament. With Sam it seemed almost personal and the press wanted him gone asap. It's almost as if they value copies sold over nation sporting success and pride.

2) The FA are a shower of :thdn:

A bonus 3rd:

Henry Winter is a prat: Preemptively set to stick the knife in should we not have done well last night.
User avatar
DasNutNock
Posts: 12302
Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:41 pm
Location: R Tape loading error, 0:1

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by DasNutNock »

Henry Winter is everything wrong with sports journalism in the UK. Smug, opinionated, genuinely believes he knows everything better than everyone else and utterly in love with himself.
User avatar
Faithless
Posts: 2312
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:09 pm
Location: On a bubble nearing the sky.....Born 7 days too late...39 years n counting...Win a cup lads...

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by Faithless »

DasNutNock wrote:Henry Winter is everything wrong with sports journalism in the UK. Smug, opinionated, genuinely believes he knows everything better than everyone else and utterly in love with himself.
That's what I should've written :thup:
User avatar
e17
Posts: 17957
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:52 pm
Location: Deep deep down
Has liked: 280 likes
Total likes: 940 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by e17 »

I’m glad they caught Allardyce

Because I want England to play football
User avatar
Eggs'n'nuts
Posts: 4150
Joined: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:10 pm
Location: Swimming in a glass half full.
Has liked: 153 likes
Total likes: 333 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by Eggs'n'nuts »

Faithless wrote:The 2 things I got from it was:

1) The press love to entrap an England manager just before a major tournament. With Sam it seemed almost personal and the press wanted him gone asap. It's almost as if they value copies sold over nation sporting success and pride.

2) The FA are a shower of :thdn:

A bonus 3rd:

Henry Winter is a prat: Preemptively set to stick the knife in should we not have done well last night.
I don't even have to watch the programme to agree with the above points!
User avatar
stu1
Posts: 12525
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:57 pm
Has liked: 658 likes
Total likes: 1024 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by stu1 »

Korea Hammer wrote:I'm not saying he didn't deserve to lose the job, but on a human level you just have to feel sorry for Sam.
I can’t feel sorry for anyone that smug, especially when it’s that same smugness which has caused them to fall flat on the face.
User avatar
uptonparkhurst
Posts: 5159
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:01 pm
Location: The World Wide Web - where men are men,women are men,and children are the Metropolitan Police
Has liked: 64 likes
Total likes: 17 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by uptonparkhurst »

DasNutNock wrote:Henry Winter is everything wrong with sports journalism in the UK. Smug, opinionated, genuinely believes he knows everything better than everyone else and utterly in love with himself.
I bet he's watched that program several times, each time thinking how great he was on camera.
Cringeworthy.
User avatar
hammers92
Posts: 12080
Joined: Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:42 pm
Has liked: 317 likes
Total likes: 1748 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by hammers92 »

e17 wrote:I’m glad they caught Allardyce

Because I want England to play football
I disagreed with him being sacked, it was a big overreaction. But I agree, I love this England team right now.
JerseyHammer
Posts: 3182
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:13 pm
Location: Italy
Has liked: 161 likes
Total likes: 156 likes

Re: Anyone watching this thing about the England job on 2?

Post by JerseyHammer »

Also stuff like this we could do without...

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... o-suggests
Post Reply