Bend it like Repka wrote:Wonderful. Bloody Wonderful.
Messi best player in the world?
The difference between him and Ronaldo is Messi needs good players around him. Ronaldo has proved time and again for Portugal he wins things by himslef.
I have seen Messi win hundreds of games by himself and Ronaldo is not playing for Real Madrid with ten other **** players,
That was brilliant. Croatia have one of the best midfields, if not the best, in the world.
Messi the petulant child stormed straight down the tunnel, no class. He should try and drag Argentina to a title like Ronaldo did with a poor to average Portugal side.
It’s not just numbers though, is it. It’s almost pointless to compare Ronaldo and Messi on that level because they both score such ludicrous numbers of goals. The differentiator now has to be their leadership and ability to drag their side to victory. We just haven’t seen that from Messi at this Cup, but we’ve certainly seen it from Ronaldo.
Messi is surrounded by quality players but doesn’t seem to know how to make his team ignite the way Ronaldo does.
Yet they both have 1 in 2 goals ratio internationally
Major international titles:
Ronaldo 1
Messi 0
I’d say Messi has generally played with better players too.
Ronaldo is relentless and just drags that Portugal team over the line. Messi sulks, storms off down the tunnel, he even retired from international football briefly when he sulked after they lost a Copa America final.
It's perhaps more relevant to compare him to Modric...?
Messi was quite static throughout the game; he wasn't in the flow of his own side at all. He has seemingly lost a bit of pace, but hadn't made up for it in other ways.
Modric was mobile and constanly involved; harrasing for the ball; linking up; totally in the flow of the team.
DasNutNock wrote:Does anyone know what the Argentina manager looks like? I think he’s a bald guy with **** tattoos, but I can’t be sure because the camera was never pointed at him.
I thought that was an extra from Shameless who had somehow wandered into a Russian football stadium by mistake.
An unusually undisciplined performance from Argentina. Defended for the final goal like a Sunday league team - all standing on the edge of the box with their hands in the air!
Up the Junction wrote:An unusually undisciplined performance from Argentina. Defended for the final goal like a Sunday league team - all standing on the edge of the box with their hands in the air!
AnthraxDave wrote:Whilst all the laughs go to Argentina and the plaudits go to Modric....What a f**king player Rakatic is :shock:
Missed the game due to work, had a feeling it was going to be a good one.....
Have said on here many times, watching Modric play for Real Madrid is a treat. I would hope that we could employ Lazini in that type of role.. Get your best players the ball often. Applies to American basketball and football. They are the ones who will win you games...there's artists and water carriers !!!!!
We don't use Lanzini enough, don't get him involved enough, well not since Payet left....
I’d say Messi has generally played with better players too.
Ronaldo is relentless and just drags that Portugal team over the line. Messi sulks, storms off down the tunnel, he even retired from international football briefly when he sulked after they lost a Copa America final.
Ronaldo has what’s called a defence behind him
Messi carries Argentina to the final 4 years ago
Ronaldo carried Portugal to the euro final
Portugal could win it without him.. the argies couldn’t