Has he got the balls to dump Lumplard?

Claretdave · Post by **Claretdave** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:03 pm

Lets be honest, Gerrard and Lampard is not working. They both run forward and fail to hold the midfield.

Owen is miles from fitness and needs to be dropped.

The defence should be a back three. I would put Hargreaves in the middle, with Gerrard and Beckham slightly ahead of him. A Cole left and Lennon right. Crouch can start up front alongside Rooney.

Robinson

Carrigher Rio Terry

Lennon Hargreaves A Cole

Beckham Gerrard

Rooney

Crouch.

Any objections??

loveboatcaptain · Post by **loveboatcaptain** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:14 pm

Looks good, if only Sven would have tried something like this. ****ing cock. The thing is, Beckham is our best player, but also our main weakness, everythiong has to come through him. Like France with Zidane.
Feel sorry for Owen, he can't do anything without any service.

hawkins_hammer · Post by **hawkins_hammer** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:16 pm

Timeline.....

January Hawkins suggests 3-5-2.

Next week Sven does this versus Sweden:
Robinson

Rio Terry A. Cole

Lennon Beckham Gerrard J. Cole
Rooney
Owen Crouch

loveboatcaptain · Post by **loveboatcaptain** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:20 pm

Sven will do this:

Robbo

Carragher Terry Rio Cole

Becks Gerrard Lumplard Cole

Crouch Rooney

hawkins_hammer · Post by **hawkins_hammer** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:22 pm

loveboatcaptain wrote:Sven will do this:

Robbo

Carragher Terry Rio Cole

Becks Gerrard Lumplard Cole

Crouch Rooney

Probably.

loveboatcaptain · Post by **loveboatcaptain** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:26 pm

Still **** though, Crouch is not a target man but England play like he is, we may as well have picked Heskey, he's a much better target man than Crouch will ever be.

Ian Bishop · Post by **Ian Bishop** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:42 pm

Three at the back is not a good tactic against a team that plays with winger. Don't try it against the Swedes.

Coley · Post by **Coley** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:44 pm

He needs to drop lampard, Play Gerrard in his normal attcking role, and based on who he has there bring Carrick into the holding misfield role.

He also needs to drop Beckham and play Lennon, as he has some energy and pace to bring into the team.

chalks · Post by **chalks** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:49 pm

How do you get Owen match fit.

Yep, take him off after 50 minutes 2 games running.

Clueless Swedish ****.

Zman39 · Post by **Zman39** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:56 pm

I fell Reo-Coker and Gerrard would have worked together well. We need somebody with some passion and bottle in the midfield

jacko · Post by **jacko** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:58 pm

chalks wrote:How do you get Owen match fit.

Yep, take him off after 50 minutes 2 games running.

Clueless Swedish c*nt.

i'm sorry but he had to come off as he was terrible. he doesn't offer any decent movement. he has to be dropped.

Coley · Post by **Coley** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:06 pm

jacko wrote: i'm sorry but he had to come off as he was terrible. he doesn't offer any decent movement. he has to be dropped.

Both fowards were piss poor, its a case of the lesser of two evils. Erikksson with his squad choises have given him no options though

chalks · Post by **chalks** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:11 pm

jacko wrote: i'm sorry but he had to come off as he was terrible. he doesn't offer any decent movement. he has to be dropped.

id rather do my utmost to get the one potential class goalscorer match fit than leave that lanky streak of nats piss on the pitch.

alf git · Post by **alf git** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:16 pm

Owen is world class............Crouch is a streak of piss

That is all.

noble art · Post by **noble art** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:42 pm

although i dont rate downing,i thought he did well when he came on
joe cole has played well recently,but every time he got the ball,he went inside to 3 t&t midfielders,making it even more congested
its hard for any team,playing against a team who only want to defend,as we found out in the championship....

hawkins_hammer · Post by **hawkins_hammer** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:09 pm

Sven took Owen off because then the British media can blame Englands porblems on Owen being crap, not Sven being clueless. I cant think of one time in the second half when the ball was played to Owens feet. Not one.

billybondsballbag · Post by **billybondsballbag** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:18 pm

chalks wrote: id rather do my utmost to get the one potential class goalscorer match fit than leave that lanky streak of nats piss on the pitch.

Absolutely. They were calling Crouch a hero - f*cking doesn't take much to be a hero these days, does it?

BMU.WIC · Post by **BMU.WIC** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:24 pm

alf git wrote:Owen is world class............Crouch is a streak of piss

That is all.

Is the correct answer.

Like 'Ian Bishop' said, playing three at the back against the Swedes is suicide due to their wingers' pace and power.

Crouch is a donkey, but he's our donkey - as I've said before Sven's the cock for not taking five strikers in the first place. Since we've qualified I think it might be time to give Walcott a run out with Owen or Rooney who still need match fitness. Can't really play both because of those injury concerns.

Lennon for Beckham - agreed, did anyone else think Beckham looked better at right back? (cue in my head 'Signimuppardooo...') :shock:

Thank f**k for Terry with that clearance as well.

I am law · Post by **I am law** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:39 pm

alf git wrote:Owen is world class............Crouch is a streak of piss

That is all.

Something tells me that, if Rooney doesn't sort it, you're right

(just in the wrong tense ... Owen was, Crouch is, that was...)

Italian Hammer · Post by **Italian Hammer** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:20 pm

chalks wrote: id rather do my utmost to get the one potential class goalscorer match fit than leave that lanky streak of nats piss on the pitch.

amen to that.

Owen and Rooney would work (when fit).

Anything involving Crouch won't. We just play CCC high-ball that only works in the CCC, not the world cup.