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England should start with formation

Postby ShanghaiHammer on Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:24 am

What about

----------Neville/Carragher----Rio---Terry------------

Lennon--Beckham--Gerrard---J.Cole---A.Cole----

---------------Owen--------Rooney----------------------

I would have absolutely no qualms about dropping Lampard, as he is playing ***** beyond *****.

If we don't have players who can beat players then we will not beat the big teams. I would say that Lennon's pace means he can beat any player in the world, and the other teams left back MUST stay back or the perfect long balls over the top will be easy for Lennon to get to. Ashley Cole can obviously move backwards and forwards with pace, and Joe Cole will be happy drifting wide when necessary. If Joe and Beckham are in the middle then Gerrard will be able to drop back when necessary, and when attacking will have much more options to work with.

I thank you.
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Postby yabush on Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:23 am

Just don't play Gerrard and Lampard together and stop playing Timmy
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Postby westlondonhammer on Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:09 pm

------------------robinson-------------------
neville-------terry------rio-----------cole
-----------------------carrick---------------
Becks---------------------------------cole
------------gerrard-------------------------
----------------------rooney---------------
----------------owen-----------------------

No neville
------------------robinson-------------------
------carrigher-----terry------rio----------
Becks-----------------------------------cole
---------------------carrick-----------------
------------gerrard-------------------------
---------rooney----------------cole--------
----------------owen-----------------------

I wouldnt play lamps either! Swap becks earlier if he is as unaffective as the other day!
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Postby Zman39 on Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:49 am

If you're playing a 3-5-2, you would definitely start Carragher over Neville in that respect to have 3 true central defenders. Also, adding to how poorly Lampard has been playing- did any1 else notice how many times Birchall from Port Vale got the better of him!!!!!!!!
Hate to say this b/c I like the guy, but Ashley Cole has not looked good at all also
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Postby Rob on Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:03 am

England playing 352 has been blatantly ****ing obvious for the last 4 years or so. No chance it's going to happen except for in the last 10 minutes when we're about to go out.
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Re: England should start with formation

Postby simon hammer on Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:14 am

----------Carragher----Rio---Terry------------

----Lennon--Beckham---Gerrard--J.Cole----

----------------------Rooney---------------------

---------------Owen--------Crouch-------------


3-4-1-2...Full of attacking options with Cole and Lennon pushing forward to join Rooney and the front pair, plenty of pace and should be good to watch.
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Postby Ian Bishop on Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:55 am

Three at the back... Doesn't seem the best of choices against Sweden. They play with wingers. Imagine Whilhelmsson attacking down the right. What do you do? You let him free or one of the defenders has challenge him? If he does so, you will leave one of Ljungberg, Larsson or Ibrahimovic virtually free, especially if you're stupid enough to have great tacklers such as Lennon and J.Cole on the flanks. It would mean whoever has to play as def midfielder (if anyone) will always have to cover the defense. Good luck...
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Postby simon hammer on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:43 am

Ian Bishop wrote:Three at the back... Doesn't seem the best of choices against Sweden. They play with wingers. Imagine Whilhelmsson attacking down the right. What do you do? You let him free or one of the defenders has challenge him? If he does so, you will leave one of Ljungberg, Larsson or Ibrahimovic virtually free, especially if you're stupid enough to have great tacklers such as Lennon and J.Cole on the flanks. It would mean whoever has to play as def midfielder (if anyone) will always have to cover the defense. Good luck...


Good point, but it sounds like you're coming from a purely defensive point of view, whereas I'm coming from the 'We're gonna score one more than you' school of thought. Anyway, Brazil didn't win 5 World Cups by worrying about their defence, did they?
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Postby Ian Bishop on Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:38 am

simon hammer wrote:
Ian Bishop wrote:Three at the back... Doesn't seem the best of choices against Sweden. They play with wingers. Imagine Whilhelmsson attacking down the right. What do you do? You let him free or one of the defenders has challenge him? If he does so, you will leave one of Ljungberg, Larsson or Ibrahimovic virtually free, especially if you're stupid enough to have great tacklers such as Lennon and J.Cole on the flanks. It would mean whoever has to play as def midfielder (if anyone) will always have to cover the defense. Good luck...


Good point, but it sounds like you're coming from a purely defensive point of view, whereas I'm coming from the 'We're gonna score one more than you' school of thought. Anyway, Brazil didn't win 5 World Cups by worrying about their defence, did they?


In order to score, you have to win the ball somewhere.
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Postby Ian Bishop on Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:04 pm

By the way, I am not coming from a defensive point of view: I think that to score goals, you have to have a balance and stability in the team. People always say Brazil never cared much about defending, forgetting that they always have a mean man in front of the defense. Emerson this year, Dunga in 94... This wasn't so much of a necessity 40 years ago, but i fear it is now.
Argentina scored 6 goals with two defensive midfielders.
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