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the sun
OFF THE MARK ... Joey O'Brien opened his top flight account
LOVELY BUBBLY ... O'Brien celebrates
ORDERS ... Sam Allardyce
West Ham 1 Stoke 1
WE expected a drab draw but this was a thriller.
Full of guile, guts and some moments of set-piece genius.
This was not at all the hoof-it-up to Andy Carroll and Peter Crouch tale of two long-ball teams.
Joey O’Brien’s first Premier League goal just after the restart cancelled out Jon Walters’ well worked first-half opener.
Although West Ham edged it and yet could not find the winner, boss Sam Allardyce must be a happy bunny this morning.
Who would have thought his side would be level on points with Arsenal in late November?
And that, even though Carroll has yet to score a goal for the Hammers. It is now five months since he scored his last goal, for England against Sweden in the Euros. But West Ham are doing fine, without his goals, thank you very much.
On the other hand for all the derision and criticism Potters boss Tony Pulis gets for Stoke’s percentage football, they are at times a joy to watch.
The visitors went in front in embarrassingly simple fashion after 13 minutes. Or so it seemed.
Glenn Whelan took a corner short and Walters appeared as if out of nowhere to smash it home.
The simplicity of the goal must have left Allardyce fuming.
But give credit where it’s due.Walters ran around the entire pack just as Whelan was about to strike.
George McCartney bumped into a barrage of bodies and could not go with him, giving the Stoke star time and space to execute.
It shows the kind of thinking that goes into Stoke’s game.
Yes, the ball is punted up an awful lot but there is clearly method in the madness.
The visitors are quite happy with the ‘long-ball’ tag and mock their rivals with passionate renditions of ‘Swing Low Sweet Chariot’ a song they adopted after they were dubbed a rugby team.
West Ham would have gone fifth with victory here — quite a start then for a team most people expected to flirt with trouble.
If Carroll starts scoring, they could be battling the likes of West Brom for a top-four spot.
Carroll drifted one header wide at 1-0 before Jussi Jaaskelainen tipped away a Robert Huth header.
The Hammers began to turn the screw and skipper Kevin Nolan was denied by a smart Asmir Begovic block after 28 minutes.
Potters’ midfielder Steven Nzonzi then almost broke the bar with a corker and it bounced down a yard the wrong side of the line.
Seconds after the restart, Begovic was at it again as he pulled off a another great save when Nolan looked certain to score.
But the Hammers were not to be denied and after 48 minutes Stoke were flat-footed as Gary O’Neil squared and O’Brien got in ahead of England centre-back Ryan Shawcross to force home the leveller from close range.
Now the Potters were on the back foot as Allardyce’s men went for the jugular.
After 56 minutes O’Neil swung in a corner, Carroll won the header that fell to Modibo Maiga whose shot was hacked off the line.
Maiga then crossed for O’Neil who smashed it across the face of the goal but it came off Huth for another flag-kick.
After 64 minutes West Ham showed they have their own mind-boggling corner routine.
O’Neil took one short to Noble, he squared to Maiga on the edge of the box and he slotted through back to O’Neil — who curled a beauty just wide. It was brilliant and full credit to Big Sam too for coming up with this one.
Chances came and went for the home side and with three minutes left, left-back McCartney was clear down the flank and squared to Nolan. But Begovic kept up his record against the midfielder to deny the Hammers again.
And the Stoke keeper was there again to hold Winston Reid’s header in injury-time.
DREAM TEAM RATINGS
WEST HAM: Jaaskelainen 7, O’Brien 7, Tomkins 8 (STAR MAN), Reid 6, McCartney 7, Noble 7, Diame 6, O’Neil 7, Nolan 7, Maiga 6, Carroll 6
STOKE: Begovic 8, Wilkinson 6, Huth 7, Shawcross 7, Cameron 6, Whelan 6, Walters 7, Nzonzi 7, Adam 6, Etherington 6, Crouch 6
Substitutes
WEST HAM — Demel (O’Brien 77) 5, Cole (Carroll 85) 5, Taylor (Maiga 85) 5. Not used: Spiegel, Collins, Spence, Hall. Booked: Noble.
STOKE — Shotton (Wilkinson 32) 5, Palacios (Whelan 62) 6, Kightly (Etherington 74) 5. Not used: Sorensen, Jones, Upson, Jerome.
the mail
Back on track: Joey O'Brien (right) is congratulated by Kevin Nolan after scoring the equaliser
Shocking: West Ham had a less than impressive first half
That'll do: O'Brien struck just after the interval
Scrappy: Glenn Whelan and Mohamed Diame get tangled up
Off form: Andy Carroll was not at his best and was substituted late on
West Ham 1 Stoke 1: Sam's pal Joey strikes back to earn a point against resilient Potters
West Ham missed the chance to continue their impressive march up the Barclays Premier League on Monday night.
Sam Allardyce’s team would have gone up to fifth with a win but had to settle for a point thanks to Joey O’Brien’s second-half equaliser.
But the Hammers manager will look at the table this morning and reflect on what might have been as his side laid siege to the Stoke goal in the second half without finding a winner.
Match facts
West Ham: Jaaskelainen, O'Brien (Demel 77), Reid, Tomkins, McCartney, Noble, Nolan, Diame, O'Neil, Carroll (Cole 85), Maiga (Taylor 85).
Subs not used: Spiegel, Collins, Spence, Hall.
Booked: Noble.
Goal: O'Brien 48.
Stoke: Begovic, Cameron, Huth, Shawcross, Wilkinson (Shotton 32), Whelan (Palacios 62), Adam, Nzonzi, Walters, Crouch, Etherington (Kightly 74).
Subs not used: Sorensen, Jones, Upson, Jerome.
Goal: Walters 13.
Att: 35,005
Ref: Chris Foy (Merseyside)
Allardyce said: ‘In the end we were disappointed. When you have that much pressure in the second half you have to be more ruthless in front of goal.
‘I can’t be too critical. We took it to them in the second half but couldn’t find the winning touch.’
However, defeat would have been harsh on Tony Pulis’ side, who were well worth their point after taking a 13th-minute lead thanks to a brilliantly worked set-piece finished off by Jonathan Walters.
Pulis said: ‘We played well in the first-half. We needed the second goal. But half-time took our momentum away from us.
On Walters’ goal, the Stoke boss added: ‘We’ve worked on that set-piece for the last three days and he has never scored it, so it’s nice he saved it for today.’
As one would expect, yesterday’s encounter was not one for the purists, with the ball spending as much time in the air as it did on the Upton Park turf.
So it wasn’t a surprise when the opening goal came from a corner — but what an excellently worked set-piece it was.
Walters was tightly marked by George McCartney at the far post but quickly escaped the defender’s attentions, running the full width of the six-yard box before sweetly striking home Glenn Whelan’s low corner through Andy Carroll’s legs and past Jussi Jaaskelainen.
West Ham nearly went 2-0 down when Jaaskelainen was forced to claw out Robert Huth’s header from Matthew Etherington’s corner in the 25th minute.
The home side created their first opening two minutes later, Stoke goalkeeper Asmir Begovic producing an excellent one-handed save to deny Hammers skipper Kevin Nolan’s powerful drive from just inside the box.
Midfield power-house Steven Nzonzi went agonisingly close to doubling Stoke’s lead in the 38th minute, crashing a 20-yard volley off the underside of Jaaskelainen’s bar.
West Ham came out a changed side in the second half and should have pulled level inside the opening minute, only for Nolan somehow to miss his kick inside the six-yard box after McCartney’s excellent cross.
Sam Allardyce
The West Ham boss’s moustache was not a bid to reprise how he looked during his playing career, rather to raise money for the Movember charity.
Charlie Adam
He didn’t take the corner from which Stoke got the lead but he assisted by blocking defender George McCartney, stopping him from tracking Jon Walters.
Matthew Upson
As the former West Ham captain was warming up in the first half, the home supporters chanted: ‘You’re the reason we went down.’
However, O’Brien spared his captain’s blushes two minutes later, poking home Gary O’Neil’s low cross for the first top-flight goal of his career after strong midfield work from Mohamed Diame.
Pulis had Whelan to thank as his side came close to going 2-1 down in the 56th minute when the Irishman cleared Modibo Maiga’s close range effort off the line after Carroll, who has now gone eight games without scoring for West Ham, nodded down Mark Noble’s corner.
O’Neil went agonisingly close with a curling effort in the 64th minute as Allardyce’s side turned the screw before seeing another effort cleared off the line minutes later.
But Stoke stemmed the claret-and-blue tide as the impetus from their equaliser started to wane.
Allardyce replaced the ineffective Carroll with Carlton Cole in the closing stages as he sought a winner but the hosts failed to find a breakthrough.
Carroll showed his frustration at being replaced and Allardyce sympathised, saying: ‘He wants to score the goal and wants to play 90 minutes. He will be disappointed but you make substitutions for the benefit of the team.’
Nolan added: ‘We were unlucky in the end and we had enough chances. It is a great result after going 1-0 down and these Stoke lads they make it tough for you, they played well tonight. I thought we did, too, we were unlucky, we were a bit gutted because we wanted to get the win to go to fifth.’
Stoke midfielder Charlie Adam said: ‘We switched off two minutes into the second half. It’s hard when you come up against quality players like Kevin on the other side and Carroll up front. This is a tough place to come, they are a good side with good players and overall I am delighted with a point.’
the independet
West Ham miss out on climbing to fifth after Jon Walters' smart set-piece
West Ham United 1 Stoke City 1
West Ham are building their season around solid defence. They have conceded only 11 goals in 11 game...
Not many promoted sides would be frustrated to be seventh this close to Christmas. But there may be a tinge of regret at the Boleyn Ground on Tuesday morning. West Ham United should be fifth.
If West Ham had beaten Stoke City on Monday night they would have overtaken Everton and Arsenal. They would only have been two points behind West Bromwich Albion. But that would have required a 90-minute performance. West Ham only played for the second half.
“We were disappointed not to win it based on that second half,” Sam Allardyce said afterwards. “But we have got another point. It has been a really good start to the season so we can’t be too disappointed. I can’t be over critical of the players.”
There has been some good and purposeful attacking football played in claret and blue this season but it took until the interval to see it last night. For the first half, West Ham looked just like a side lacking Yossi Benayoun and Matt Jarvis, two of their sharpest creative players. It requires imagination and precision to pick through the imposing rows of Stoke, and West Ham had neither. “Stoke were so good”, explained Allardyce.
The West Ham manager was particularly impressed by Stoke’s opening goal. Allardyce has a deserved reputation as a master of minutiae, a genuinely original organiser of players and teams. But his side were out-manoeuvred by Stoke’s clever set-piece trick.
Glenn Whelan had a corner from the right wing. Jon Walters was stood at the far post. As Whelan started his run-up, Walters darted away from goal, across the box and towards the near side. Whelan pulled the ball back into the space where Walters arrived and thumped the ball in.
“I’m not supposed to say this but we obstructed a player,” said Pulis. “Unsaveable,” marvelled Allardyce.
Only after the interval did West Ham start to play with pace, width or success. After one minute they should have scored, when a Mohamed Diame-driven move down the left ended with Kevin Nolan heading straight at Asmir Begovic. One minute later, they did equalise: a Diame-driven move down the right ended better, with Joey O’Brien turning in Gary O’Neil’s cross.
From that point West Ham were far superior. “We took the game to Stoke in the second half and dominated, penned them back but we could not find the winning touch in front of goal,” said Allardyce.
Modibo Maiga and O’Neil went close as West Ham surged forward, scenting fifth. Whelan blocked twice on the line. Diame shot wide. Maiga chipped a cross over Carroll’s head and Winston Reid headed at Begovic in added time.
Carroll worked hard but did not score and did not look like doing so. “Andy is not to get too frustrated,” said Allardyce. “Sooner or later if we work on his run and the service he will score. Scoring chances is the most difficult thing in this league. At the moment we have only got Kevin Nolan who can do it for us regularly.”
Match Facts
West Ham: JAASKELAINEN, O’BRIEN, REID, TOMKINS, McCARTNEY, O’NEIL, DIAME, NOBLE, NOLAN, MAIGA, CARROLL
Stoke City: BEGOVIC, WILKINSON, HUTH, SHAWCROSS, CAMERON, ETHERINGTON, NZONZI, ADAM, WHELAN, WALTERS, CROUCH
Scorers: West Ham United - O'Brien 48. Stoke City - Walters 13
Subs: West Ham Demel (O'Brien, 77), Cole (Carroll, 85), Taylor (Maiga, 85). Stoke Shotton (Wilkinson, 32), Palacios (Whelan, 62), Kightly (Etherington, 74). Booked: West Ham Noble. Stoke none.
Man of the match Nolan. Match rating 4/10.
Possession: West Ham 55% Stoke 45%.
Attempts on target: West Ham 11 Stoke 6. Referee C Foy (Merseyside). Att 35,005.
the guardian
Joey O'Brien makes a point as West Ham hold Stoke City
West Ham United 1
O'Brien 48
Stoke City 1
Walters 13
West Ham United's defender Joey O'Brien, centre, celebrates after scoring against Stoke City.
West Ham United's defender Joey O'Brien, centre, celebrates after scoring against Stoke City. Photograph: Ben Stansall/AFP/Getty Images
The stage was set for West Ham United. The club had never been better off at this stage of a Premier League season, confidence was high and Stoke City's away form had been terrible. Sam Allardyce's Movember tache looked magnificent and the evening called for his team to cement their place in the top six, to keep the Upton Park bubbles buoyant.
The fear nagged that it had to fall flat. West Ham are past masters of embracing chaos while Stoke tend to revel in pooping parties. This was no disaster for Allardyce's team but the sense was that it represented an opportunity missed. After Joey O'Brien had scored his first ever Premier League goal to equalise Jon Walter's classy first-half strike, West Ham looked set to buck a recent trend. Only twice had the London club come from behind to win in the previous 62 Premier League fixtures in which they had trailed.
They enjoyed a purple patch and it felt as though the winning goal might come. Modibo Maïga had a shot cleared off the line by Glenn Whelan, following Andy Carroll's towering header and Gary O'Neil bent a shot just wide. But West Ham ran out of steam and ideas and their frustration was epitomised by Carroll's response to his late substitution. Amateur lip-readers had no trouble in discerning his thoughts on Allardyce's decision or the expletives. Carroll has not scored in eight appearances for the club.
"He wants to score the goal and he wants me to leave him on for 90 minutes," Allardyce said. "But he put that much effort in and we had others on the bench who could give us more energy in the final minutes. He will be disappointed, I know. But I make decisions for the benefit of everyone. He is not to get frustrated."
It was a bruising encounter yet there were flickers of finesse, most notably from Walters for his goal, when he arrived to sweep home Whelan's low corner with the sweetest of first-time connections. Carroll, defending on the line, could not keep it out. Walters had bent his run from the far corner of the six-yard box and past the penalty spot, with his marker, George McCartney, having been stopped in his tracks by a block from Charlie Adam. A little mischief was allied to the precision.
Tony Pulis, the Stoke manager, rejoiced on the touchline. Any member of his union loves it when a training ground plan comes together. "If the referee has eyes in the back of his head, he would have given the foul against Adam," Allardyce said. "But the routine was undefendable."
Pulis could be pleased with his team's first half football and said: "The worst thing that happened to us was half-time." Robert Huth's header was clawed to safety by Jussi Jaaskelainen while the eye-catching Steven Nzonzi hit a rising drive from outside the area against the underside of the crossbar. West Ham were disjointed in the first half. Apart from Kevin Nolan's shot that drew a smart save from Asmir Begovic, they were reduced to spluttering over refereeing decisions. Allardyce's demand for better quality, though, was heeded on the restart while Pulis described Stoke as "sluggish". West Ham's tempo became higher, their movement sharper.
Nolan had somehow failed to convert McCartney's cross from point-blank range when West Ham recycled possession for O'Neil to cross from the right. O'Brien's imitation of a centre-forward was more than passable when he lifted his shot high past Begovic. There was the merest hint of offside, which prompted some grumbling from Pulis about home teams getting such decisions but it would have been a difficult one for the assistant to have ruled out.
West Ham's grandstand finish, though, did not materialise. For Stoke the wait for an away win stretches to 16 league games yet the regrets belonged chiefly to the home team.
the telegraph
Bubbling over: Joey O'Brien scored for West Ham two minutes after the restart following a brilliant set-piece operner from Stoke
West Ham United 1 Stoke City 1
Joey O’Brien’s first Premier League goal cancelled out Jonathan Walters’ first-half strike for Stoke City but West Ham finished in slightly frustrated mood at Upton Park last night. Initially inhibited, the hosts opened up impressively but failed to seize all the points.
Having been outclassed for most of the opening half, West Ham were a completely different force after the interval, playing with far more urgency and width, clearly stirred by Sam Allardyce’s words at the break.
Until then, Stoke had been largely in control, with Steven Nzonzi influential in midfield and Walters scoring with a goal that owed much to some blocking by Charlie Adam.
Yet there was much to admire in West Ham’s play after half-time. George McCartney delivered some good crosses, James Tomkins continued to marshal Peter Crouch well, Kevin Nolan drove his team on and O’Brien took a rare glimpse of goal well.
Stoke made a few appeals for offside but the goal was given. Andy Carroll charged around but failed to make meaningful impact and cut a frustrated figure when removed by Allardyce towards the end.
Until Allardyce galvanised his players at the break, Stoke had dominated. The move that had led to Walters’ fine 12th-minute strike brimmed with finesse, a swift counter-attack panicking George McCartney into conceding a corner.
The pain intensified from the set-piece, cleverly worked by Stoke, but also involving some illegal blocking to allow Walters his free run. As Walters broke away from McCartney’s domain at the far-post, Adam responded as if preparing for the NBA draft, ensuring that McCartney could not follow Walters’ run.
Walters bent his run around the grappling pairs, timing his arrival perfectly to meet Glenn Whelan’s cutback from the corner-flag with a ferocious first-time strike that Carroll failed to cut out.
The Bobby Moore Stand looked on in a mixture of anger and disbelief, depending on whether they had spotted Adam’s surreptitious screening. Walters was wheeling away, celebrating with Adam and company as the Stoke fans launched into 'Delilah’.
For 45 minutes, Tony Pulis’ side were sharper, hungrier, far more threatening. From a Matthew Etherington corner, Crouch was denied by Jussi Jaaskelainen. A ripple of unease filtered through the home fans. Their team responded. Mohamed Diamé embarked on a promising run. Nolan was thwarted by Asmir Begovic, whose apparent time-wasting angered West Ham.
Allardyce then went into meltdown when Chris Foy ignored Geoff Cameron’s rather obvious push on Carroll. The offence was just on the edge of Stoke’s area, an inviting location so Allardyce’s livid countenance was understandable. Even his contribution to Movember bristled.
Surprisingly, West Ham remained in second gear until the second half and Stoke looked the likelier to update the scoreline as the first half closed. Nzonzi connected with a half-volley that almost snapped the West Ham bar.
Nolan’s evening almost ended just before the break, following a challenge from Ryan Shotton. Nolan hobbled on, making the interval, and leading West Ham back out 15 minutes later a totally revitalised force.
Sensing their players’ new mood, West Ham fans instantly urged them on. McCartney delivered a superb cross from the left that Nolan narrowly failed to turn past Begovic.
Back they came again, equalising three minutes after the restart. Diamé nudged the ball right for the increasingly influential Gary O’Neil to cross low and hard into the box. O’Brien, not noted as one of the game’s great penalty-box predators, responded like a skilled poacher, turning the ball in.
Back came West Ham again, now chasing the lead and only Whelan’s positioning and reflexes kept out Maiga’s shot. Then O’Neil drilled the ball in, prompting some desperate defending to keep the ball out.
Stoke sought to relieve the pressure. Walters broke inside from the right and fired over. Still Upton Park seethed with frustration at what they deemed Begovic’s tardiness at taking goal-kicks or free kicks.
Allardyce made a change, removing the goalscorer O’Brien for Guy Demel. His team still looked the more assertive and Diamé stabbed a shot wide.
Still West Ham pushed on. Demel shot wide. Nolan continued to drop deep and scheme and then race forward. Carlton Cole then sprinted on, replacing Carroll, who looked less than impressed at being withdrawn.
He marched straight to the subs’ seats, shaking his head occasionally and then throwing his arms when finally sitting down.
West Ham kept charging forward with McCartney again to the fore, sliding in another good cross from the left which Begovic managed to get a foot to.
Match details
West Ham (4-2-3-1) Jaaskelainen; O’Brien (Demel 77), Reid, Tomkins, McCartney; Diame, Noble; O’Neil, Nolan, Maiga (Taylor 86); Carroll (Cole 86).
Subs: Spiegel, Collins, Spence, Hall.
Booked: Noble.
Stoke City (4-4-1-1) Begovic; Cameron, Huth, Shawcross, Wilkinson (Shotton 32); Walters, Whelan (Palacios 62), Nzonzi, Etherington (Kightly 74); Adam; Crouch.
Subs: Sorensen, Jones, Upson, Jerome.
Referee: C Foy (Merseyside)
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Christ CH, I am seven hours ahead of Blighty and this is still very early. Good job
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Cheers CH.
How did you manage this, it's still morning here!
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cockney hammer wrote: France striker Djibril Cisse, 31, offers an angry QPR fan the chance to confront him face-to-face at the club's training ground so they can sort out their differences.
"Come on then, if you think you're hard enough!"
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Aye ?. Think you will find it was a foul by that muggy little **** Adams. Cheers CHGeorge McCartney bumped into a barrage of bodies
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Cheers CH Appreciated.
A good point and could have has more. I'm happy this morning
One gripe though - could someone please teach them how to take a corner....
A good point and could have has more. I'm happy this morning
One gripe though - could someone please teach them how to take a corner....
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A what?cockney hammer wrote:but it came off Huth for another flag-kick.
What a shock. He's never scored it, but he does against us.cockney hammer wrote:On Walters’ goal, the Stoke boss added: ‘We’ve worked on that set-piece for the last three days and he has never scored it, so it’s nice he saved it for today.’
They picked the least offensive chant, probably for the best! :lol:cockney hammer wrote:Matthew Upson
As the former West Ham captain was warming up in the first half, the home supporters chanted: ‘You’re the reason we went down.’
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Cheers CH.
Whats happened to the quote boxes? Either the bosses have changed it or my macbook has gone weird :lol:
Whats happened to the quote boxes? Either the bosses have changed it or my macbook has gone weird :lol:
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I'm on my iPad and it's all gone weird!Kitt the car wrote:Cheers CH.
Whats happened to the quote boxes? Either the bosses have changed it or my macbook has gone weird :lol:
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I liked the "you're not playing cause your s**t" Chantcockney hammer wrote:Matthew Upson
As the former West Ham captain was warming up in the first half, the home supporters chanted: ‘You’re the reason we went down.’
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