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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby MEM on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:04 pm

Always said on the original thread our last home game of this season should have been played in the Olympic Stadium to stress test it and give us supporters some idea of what it would be like ~ mind you I do remember someone who i thought was being rather negative mentioning "what about the possibility of rain" ~ appreciate the pitch isn't big enough in its current footprint but that could have been sorted ........and we would have filled it for a one off.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Pop Robson on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:13 pm

MEM wrote:Always said on the original thread our last home game of this season should have been played in the Olympic Stadium to stress test it and give us supporters some idea of what it would be like ~ mind you I do remember someone who i thought was being rather negative mentioning "what about the possibility of rain" ~ appreciate the pitch isn't big enough in its current footprint but that could have been sorted ........and we would have filled it for a one off.


Maybe they'll do the pre-season 'home' friendly there this season for a trial run
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby MEM on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:30 pm

Now now I was talking about in my opinion not the boards :wink:
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:50 am

IronMaiden123 wrote:
It's true "Iron-worx" anything is possible if you have unlimited funds and ignore the realities.
With a free-hand and blank cheque the only sensible thing would be to pull the OS down and build a football ground.
Because of the cost, and constraints posed by athletics use and retention of the athletics track everything that is possible, with or without a positive attitude, amounts to shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic.


What a wonderful post - Prime example of whats not possible given a negative attitude :P
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:54 am

MEM wrote:Always said on the original thread our last home game of this season should have been played in the Olympic Stadium to stress test it and give us supporters some idea of what it would be like ~ mind you I do remember someone who i thought was being rather negative mentioning "what about the possibility of rain" ~ appreciate the pitch isn't big enough in its current footprint but that could have been sorted ........and we would have filled it for a one off.


The problem with that is that it would give you an experience of what it's like to play in the Olympic Stadium exactly as is with not one alteration made to it....

Surely even the most negative of mongers wouldn't suggest that not a single alteration will be made to it :think:
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Pop Robson on Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:07 pm

Be interesting to hear what the OPLC budget is for any conversion costs.

In the present economic environment they ain't going to get away with spending much.

I suspect even a new roof to cover all the seats will be too expensive.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby gavrosh on Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:32 pm

Well we know that the OPLC have £36 million ring-fenced for it. Newham has pledged the original £40 million too. The issue now is where the extra money will come from, which itself is dependent upon the complexity of the refit. West Ham will be arguing that given no stadium sponsorship rights, it shouldn't have to contribute, in which case the OPLC, if they still think West Ham are the best choice for the tenancy, will have dip into what's going to be left of the contingency money, which is about £100 million.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby MEM on Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:49 pm

Iron-worx wrote: MEM said ~ Always said on the original thread our last home game of this season should have been played in the Olympic Stadium to stress test it and give us supporters some idea of what it would be like ~ mind you I do remember someone who i thought was being rather negative mentioning "what about the possibility of rain" ~ appreciate the pitch isn't big enough in its current footprint but that could have been sorted ........and we would have filled it for a one off.

The problem with that is that it would give you an experience of what it's like to play in the Olympic Stadium exactly as is with not one alteration made to it....

Surely even the most negative of mongers wouldn't suggest that not a single alteration will be made to it :think:


Yes but don't forget I said this well over year ago under the original lease plan and if that had gone ahead we would be well on the way to a retro-fit by now with all the plans in place to move the construction teams in after the Para Olympics in September. So people would have gone along for the experience with full knowledge of what changes would be for in place for "football" a year later.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:19 pm

gavrosh wrote:Well we know that the OPLC have £36 million ring-fenced for it. Newham has pledged the original £40 million too. The issue now is where the extra money will come from, which itself is dependent upon the complexity of the refit. West Ham will be arguing that given no stadium sponsorship rights, it shouldn't have to contribute, in which case the OPLC, if they still think West Ham are the best choice for the tenancy, will have dip into what's going to be left of the contingency money, which is about £100 million.


Politicians can always find money for what suits them have no fears about that, and that's the crux of it all - For what suits them...

They want the stadium off their hands and looking securely tenanted as possible, so they won't scrimp on refitting costs if they're in any way seen as a hurdle...

It's all a matter of attitudes and their attitude is we look good so long as the legacy does.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby gavrosh on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:48 pm

I think there will be a political problem if the refit exceeds the money that's still left in reserve. That will fill newspaper inches and get a lot of people asking why the taxpayer is paying for West Ham's new stadium, whether that point is valid or not. Thankfully, it looks like there's going to be about £100 mil of the contingency left over, and with £75 million already pledged, another £50-£75 mil should be enough for a decent refit job with a bit of money left over to pay back to the Treasury.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:49 pm

gavrosh wrote:I think there will be a political problem if the refit exceeds the money that's still left in reserve. That will fill newspaper inches and get a lot of people asking why the taxpayer is paying for West Ham's new stadium, whether that point is valid or not. Thankfully, it looks like there's going to be about £100 mil of the contingency left over, and with £75 million already pledged, another £50-£75 mil should be enough for a decent refit job with a bit of money left over to pay back to the Treasury.


They can now point to a rental income plus stadium rights income so they're ahead before they start with regard to qualifying their position with expense incurred in refit, I can't see it being a problem to be honest. The whole background of attitude and economics lends itself to a greater rather than lesser refit, which is one of the reasons why I'm reservedly in favour pending on that liklihood manifesting itself for certain.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby N1Andy on Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:45 pm

I have huge concerns over our ability to fit an affordable permanent roof as the span is absolutely immense, and structurally it'll be very difficult. If we can't get a decent "affordable" roof then any retractible seating would be a waste of time as PL rules stipulate that all fans must be covered........and I fear that the cost of a roof might impinge hugely on our budget for any other renovations.

However, as much as I don't trust them, I am sure that they must have factored this in and have a solution up their sleave - am just curious to see how they'll get around it.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby IronMaiden123 on Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:47 pm

N1Andy wrote:However, as much as I don't trust them, I am sure that they must have factored this in and have a solution up their sleave - am just curious to see how they'll get around it.


What evidence does anyone have that
(a) They know what they are doing
(b) They have solutions up their sleave
(c) They know how much these will cost or where the money is coming from?
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:03 pm

IronMaiden123 wrote:
What evidence does anyone have that
(a) They know what they are doing
(b) They have solutions up their sleave
(c) They know how much these will cost or where the money is coming from?


A... They are both successful businessmen, they didn't become that by not knowing what they're doing.

B... They have said that they have plans that will be very persuasive when seen. I don't think that they lie about things like that, they'd look pretty stupid if after saying it there were no plans so I don't doubt that they have plans, whether persuasive or not I'll judge them on their merit which I would suggest is the fairminded thing to do.

C... Err, are you actually serious ? If they didn't know then they could read the last half dozen or so posts in this thread.

And why is everybody spelling Sleeve as Sleave :?
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Pop Robson on Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:12 pm

IronMaiden123 wrote:
What evidence does anyone have that
(a) They know what they are doing
(b) They have solutions up their sleave
(c) They know how much these will cost or where the money is coming from?


a. Relegated the club after sacking Zola and giving '15 games' Grant a whole season
b. Image
c. No and no but not from their wallets
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Hammer110 on Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:12 am

N1Andy wrote:I have huge concerns over our ability to fit an affordable permanent roof as the span is absolutely immense, and structurally it'll be very difficult. If we can't get a decent "affordable" roof then any retractible seating would be a waste of time as PL rules stipulate that all fans must be covered........and I fear that the cost of a roof might impinge hugely on our budget for any other renovations.

t.



Actually they don't, the PL rules state the majority of seats must be covered and the cost and practicalities of doing so is not our problem, it's our Landlords problem and if they cant do what we is need to make the place suitable for PL and European football (we can all dream) then we walk away!
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby upton girlie on Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:37 pm

Just as a matter of reference, for any who are concerned, I took a picture inside the Boleyn yesterday...Using my (not so good) fish eye lens.

Now I know I have a splendid view of the match activities, that can be vouched for by many on here, but if I was looking, for the first time, at that picture (from a photo point of view) then I would imagine that I would be miles away from the pitch.

Image

Respect the camera...or not :wink:
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby mywhufc on Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:01 pm

upton girlie wrote:Just as a matter of reference, for any who are concerned, I took a picture inside the Boleyn yesterday...Using my (not so good) fish eye lens.

Now I know I have a splendid view of the match activities, that can be vouched for by many on here, but if I was looking, for the first time, at that picture (from a photo point of view) then I would imagine that I would be miles away from the pitch.

Image

Respect the camera...or not :wink:

Yeah but sit upstairs at the OLYM STAD in roughly the same row back from the front. take the same photo, bet your further away
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby MD_HM on Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:15 pm

No current or future season ticket holder will never have to sit in one of those seats though, unless we suddenly break into the champions league.

Same way I doubt none of the top back row corner seats in the west or east now are season ticket holders.

It's a **** arguement... That photo is a superb example of the scaremongering been done on here as there is a lack of plans and fans that have been to the OS.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby mywhufc on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:02 pm

MD_HM wrote:No current or future season ticket holder will never have to sit in one of those seats though, unless we suddenly break into the champions league.

Same way I doubt none of the top back row corner seats in the west or east now are season ticket holders.

It's a **** arguement... That photo is a superb example of the scaremongering been done on here as there is a lack of plans and fans that have been to the OS.

That pic is taken from the side, looks about halfway back west upper, fans will be sitting there, not everyone wil want to sit in the tempory seating on the track, that's if they plan that and from what I saw there wasn't any down the side. So it's not a **** argument as you put it. I sit in the corner of trev upper by the east, season ticket holder of years n years last 7 there, season ticket holders do sit in the corners.
It's not just about the inside though for many, the outside will be sterile as much as inside
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