4 Confirmed Bids

[Heysel76]

So, if the bid is awarded as a ground share & we refuse, the bid cant proceed..............then what happens?

[Doc H Ball]

G&S have already decided we are moving and are now in an incredible bargaining position.

The law is that the stadium has to be offered at commercial rates, whatever.

I know that there is a legal case already pending if the tennancy is offered at a cent less what might be considered a reasonable price.

It will be awarded to us and will then go to court again...

By the way, G&S already deciding we are moving (which was decided before they bought us), is hardly putting us in an 'incredible bargaining position'. They have buttered our arse.

[Hammer110]

By the way, G&S already deciding we are moving (which was decided before they bought us), is hardly putting us in an 'incredible bargaining position'. They have buttered our arse.

Not sure of your logic there Doc, the Daves didn't make their fortunes by bending over and taking it up the arse.

The uni just want office space hardly going to bankroll a 60,000 seat stadium.
F1 only want it for a week a year, and will only want to pay rent commiserate with that.
Orient are a joke, cant afford it alone and are just hoping to ride on our coat tails.

We are the only show in town that can make a major contribution to the running costs of the O/S, the Daves hold all the cards and should make them pay or walk.

[Doc H Ball]

The only thing we get is a cut-up turf from it being played on every week instead of every fortnight.

I reckon it might be plastic.

[Doc H Ball]

Not sure of your logic there Doc, the Daves didn't make their fortunes by bending over and taking it up the arse...

...the Daves hold all the cards and should make them pay or walk.

No, they made their fortunes by quite literally getting others to do that.

It is no great bargaining position to decide something before knowing it's suitability. They say they will only accept it with 'retractable' seats etc, but what if they're offered less? Not a full roof, some seats behind the goals and shared use, for example? I reckon they're gagging for it so much they would take whatever is offered.

Regardless, the point is that they cannot 'make them pay'. Commercial rates or State Aid.

[AJ]

F1 looked at it and thought hey while the football is on we could lay a road track round the outside of the pitch and do a race at the same time, be like the indy 500 but on a small scale

[brownout]

Isn't there a Premier League rule that forbids ground sharing?

[tall paul]

Don't rule out the f1 bid, stadium being tied up for 1 weekend would fiit in with any athletics legacy, got to be less costs for conversion and brings a weekend of happy clappys rather than football and associated costs of policing etc, ecclestone will be up for bunging in a few bob towards it as well

[Heysel76]

Isn't there a Premier League rule that forbids ground sharing?

Doesn't seem to be as such, but type "ground sharing" into the search facility & you will see there are a lot of provisos
http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/handbooks/premier-league-handbook-2011-12.pdf

[Rays Rock]

Do not be surprised to find out that every bidder here gets what it's after.
On the face of it every bidder can actually work together.
Ourselves and Orient CAN share a stadium on a practical basis. F1 is a summer concern and can be shoe horned in amongst any athletic/entertainments planning. The college bid can probably work all year round without affecting anyone !
Personally, the only one that annoys me is that Hearn is now piggybacking upon our bid. He must know of the amount of restructure that is being mooted by the legacy committee. He must now like what he is hearing, especially as he clearly stated that the stadium was totally unfit for football ! Hearn is one hypocritical cock.

[the pink palermo]

At what point will everyone realise throwing good money after bad is plain daft ?

Half a roof, no covered concourse for catering , no permanant toilets, current and most likely future seating arrangements unsuited for watching football,and all of this to accomodate uk Athletics .

It's a white elephant and the Government would be better served accepting the reality bulldoze the site , and sell it .

The RFU had to fund the building of Twickenham

The FA had to fund the building of Wembley

The LTA had to fund the building of Wimbledon

UK Athletics ? Massive gift from the taxpayer ......

[QuintonNimoy]

UK Athletics ? Massive gift from the taxpayer ......

What's this name again? Lord something or other.... used to run a bit.

Seriously, are we pretending the global stadium building industry and the large scale property development industry in general isn't involved in the Olympic voting process on the basis of how much business they can get in any location? It's the fact the UK didn't have the facilities in the first place that's a part (just a part, but quite an important one) of the reason we got it.

If UKA was a big deal they'd have built something years ago, it's the fact they're not that means this can happen. That and compulsory purchasing of vast areas of prime development land, upgrading transport links, etc, all to "regenerate" the area. The taxpayer always pays for this stuff.

Why do we think countries like Ukraine and Poland and Qatar with infrastructure (not just the stadia but hotels, transport, etc) that either doesn't exist or desperately needs upgrading keep winning these bids? Who profits?

I like the Olympics but there's no need for me to pretend it isn't a gross hypocrisy and there aren't plenty of people raking in the cash off the back of it. I would probably prefer it if it were in Paris as then the French would be footing the bill. There's a reason Platini is suddenly talking about a hugely dispersed cost for a future Euros - the markets aren't so impressed with largesse and governments are refusing to pay for it.

It's all bad money and it will continue to be thrown into the pot because they've made the commitment. The property developers have only just started on the site, the first phase where the stadia builders make their money and the taxpayer clears up the land is almost over, the further exploitation is yet to come. Just another way to funnel public money into private pockets. G&S are hoping their pocket, and those of West Ham United, wil be amongst the beneficiaries.

[Persil Tickets]

Doc H Ball wrote

By the way, G&S already deciding we are moving (which was decided before they bought us), is hardly putting us in an 'incredible bargaining position'. They have buttered our arse.

Doc, I agree with you about us the fans getting shafted but still think that they (G&S) hold all the cards based on the fact that they are the only realistic bidder that can offer any hope of return on the upkeep of the stadium. As others have already stated the remaining bids wouldn't touch the amount of cash required to maintain it.

I would prefer to walk away and let them come back to us in a few years time after the World Athletic Championships when desperation will have really kicked in. Better still don't touch the place with a barge pole.

[Pidge]

How the hell are we still interested in this?

Surely we wouldnt entertain the notion of sharing! The mighty West Ham...sharing.......that would be the end of it for me.

[paulhs1]

Surely we wouldnt entertain the notion of sharing!

Brady told me she was happy to share with a rugby club if she had to, although she told the press the complete opposite.

[Denbighammer]

At what point will everyone realise throwing good money after bad is plain daft ?

Half a roof, no covered concourse for catering , no permanant toilets, current and most likely future seating arrangements unsuited for watching football,and all of this to accomodate uk Athletics .

It's a white elephant and the Government would be better served accepting the reality bulldoze the site , and sell it .

Until we've seen the final plans, people won't say anything and by then it will be too late.

I don't even see how the Daves are gonna make much on the deal. O/Stadium renovations will cost us a lot of money and I don't see how, by the time the roofs gone on, bogs gone in, retractable seating installed etc has been completed there will be much left from the money they make on the sale of the Boleyn?

[Nacho Man]

UCFB are just attempting to increase publicity IMO.

[trick88]

I've got my fingers crossed for formula 1.. would be awesome, being used once a year!!

[The Moth]

At what point will everyone realise throwing good money after bad is plain daft ?

Half a roof, no covered concourse for catering , no permanant toilets, current and most likely future seating arrangements unsuited for watching football,and all of this to accomodate uk Athletics .

It's a white elephant and the Government would be better served accepting the reality bulldoze the site , and sell it .

The only saving grace is if that scenario was ever to come about and we were in a position to buy.

[hammerinspain]

Hearn on Talk Sport in a while to talk about it