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If we are going to play 3-4 then there needs to be a huge improvement in the quality of linebackers on the roster. Granted we were starting 2 rookies, one a UDFA, but it's become a regular thing to be ground down in middle of the field in the second half. Can't cover or tackle. Overall, not a bad performance against a team that shut out the Cowboys last week.WCpete wrote:Now that. THAT is how you wrap a season. Nice work Jints.
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Re: NFL Pick 'em pool 2017/18
Packers and Saints are two teams that seem to get all sorts of penalty calls that others don't.
Just sayin'
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Stayed up to 5 AM and watched Chiefs V's Hawks.
Glad I did - what a great game. I love that kid Mahones for KCC and they play a lovely attacking style of football, shame about their def though
That said Wilson was exceptional most of the game. Him and Baldwin are a killer combo. Hawks def looked very suspect in the 2nd quarter but good old Ken Norton sorted them out and made the KCC pass the ball as it was clear they had the def to stop their running game.
Still a W and a place in the play offs - I'll take that any day of the week!
Glad I did - what a great game. I love that kid Mahones for KCC and they play a lovely attacking style of football, shame about their def though
That said Wilson was exceptional most of the game. Him and Baldwin are a killer combo. Hawks def looked very suspect in the 2nd quarter but good old Ken Norton sorted them out and made the KCC pass the ball as it was clear they had the def to stop their running game.
Still a W and a place in the play offs - I'll take that any day of the week!
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gut wrenching loss by my Texans - who must be in the Christmas Spirit giving up almost 500 yards to Nick Foles...
not that he's a bad quarterback but I think we've given up 400, almost 400 and then almost 500 in the past 3 games.
no running game to speak of and then having lost our fastest WR to an ACL injury, the bloke we got in a trade tore his Achilles yesterday..
a kid from Linestone Collge caught our "go ahead" t.d. with about 2 minutes left only for us to lose on a field goal as time expired..
this is not how you want to go into the play offs that's for sure.......
speaking of giving up yards, this really is a q.b.'s league now...300 yards was virtually a fantastic game.
look at yesterday:
Foles - 471
Rogers - 442
Roethlisberger - 380
Luck - 357
Darnold - 341
Watson - 339
Winston - 336
Brees - 326
Manning - 309
that's ridiculous.............
and 8 running backs over 100 yds
and 10 wide receivers over 100 yds
good finish to the Saints/Steelers game though
not that he's a bad quarterback but I think we've given up 400, almost 400 and then almost 500 in the past 3 games.
no running game to speak of and then having lost our fastest WR to an ACL injury, the bloke we got in a trade tore his Achilles yesterday..
a kid from Linestone Collge caught our "go ahead" t.d. with about 2 minutes left only for us to lose on a field goal as time expired..
this is not how you want to go into the play offs that's for sure.......
speaking of giving up yards, this really is a q.b.'s league now...300 yards was virtually a fantastic game.
look at yesterday:
Foles - 471
Rogers - 442
Roethlisberger - 380
Luck - 357
Darnold - 341
Watson - 339
Winston - 336
Brees - 326
Manning - 309
that's ridiculous.............
and 8 running backs over 100 yds
and 10 wide receivers over 100 yds
good finish to the Saints/Steelers game though
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Passing yards not necessarily a reflection of a winning offense. Teams that fall behind have to pass the ball a lot to catch up. Team leading the league in passing yards per game: Tampa
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understand mate.and not saying it's one or the other...
just that these yardage games are indicative of "fans want to see points on the board" look at the scores this year......
just that these yardage games are indicative of "fans want to see points on the board" look at the scores this year......
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After a 30 year hiatus, I’m in my second season of getting back into NFL, and am starting to pick up some of the intricacies of the game and at the moment am appreciating the skills of the various QBs playing,WHU Independent wrote:Stayed up to 5 AM and watched Chiefs V's Hawks.
Glad I did - what a great game. I love that kid Mahones for KCC and they play a lovely attacking style of football, shame about their def though
That said Wilson was exceptional most of the game. Him and Baldwin are a killer combo. Hawks def looked very suspect in the 2nd quarter but good old Ken Norton sorted them out and made the KCC pass the ball as it was clear they had the def to stop their running game.
Still a W and a place in the play offs - I'll take that any day of the week!
Just watched the highlights of that game and agree with you about Mahones, he is a joy to watch - his speed of thought and foot is outstanding and as for some of the passes he makes, are remarkable. Wilson is a great player too.
I also watched the Saints v Steelers game beforehand, and Drew Brees is another QB who is great to watch - he appears to have unlimited time to make plays and must have eyes in the back of his head.
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Re: NFL Pick 'em pool 2017/18
12 teams have playoff clinching scenarios for Week 17
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 25, 2018, 12:13 PM EST
Two teams already know their playoff seeds before Week 17: The Saints, who will be the NFC No. 1 seed, and the Cowboys, who will be the NFC No. 4 seed. After that, things are wide open.
Overall, 12 teams have scenarios in which they can clinch a playoff berth, a division, a first-round bye or home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. We’ll explore all of those scenarios, from the straightforward (Chiefs will have home-field advantage if they win) to the remote (Steelers will be a wild card if they win, and the Ravens win, and the Titans and Colts tie).
Here are the Week 17 playoff scenarios, as distributed by the NFL:
NFC
CLINCHED:
New Orleans Saints – NFC South division title and home-field advantage
Los Angeles Rams – NFC West division title
Chicago Bears – NFC North division title
Dallas Cowboys – NFC East division title
Seattle Seahawks – playoff berth
LOS ANGELES RAMS (12-3) (vs. San Francisco (4-11), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, FOX)
Los Angeles clinches a first-round bye with:
LAR win or tie OR
CHI loss or tie
CHICAGO BEARS (11-4) (at Minnesota (8-6-1), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, FOX)
Chicago clinches a first-round bye with:
CHI win + LAR loss
MINNESOTA VIKINGS (8-6-1) (vs. Chicago (11-4), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, FOX)
Minnesota clinches a playoff berth with:
MIN win or tie OR
PHI loss or tie
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (8-7) (at Washington (7-8), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, FOX)
Philadelphia clinches a playoff berth with:
PHI win + MIN loss
AFC
CLINCHED:
Kansas City Chiefs – Playoff berth
Los Angeles Chargers – Playoff berth
New England Patriots – AFC East division title
Houston Texans – Playoff berth
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (11-4) (vs. Oakland (4-11), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, CBS)
Kansas City clinches AFC West division title and home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs with:
KC win OR
KC tie + LAC loss or tie OR
LAC loss + NE loss or tie + HOU loss or tie OR
LAC loss + NE loss or tie + KC clinches at least a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over HOU
Kansas City clinches AFC West division title and a first-round bye with:
LAC loss + NE loss or tie OR
LAC loss + HOU loss or tie
LAC loss + KC clinches at least a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over HOU
Kansas City clinches AFC West division title with:
LAC loss OR
KC tie + LAC tie
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (10-5) (vs. New York Jets (4-11), Sunday, 1:00 PM ET, CBS)
New England clinches home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs with:
NE win + KC loss + LAC loss
New England clinches a first-round bye with:
NE win OR
NE tie + HOU loss or tie OR
BAL loss or tie + HOU loss + TEN loss or tie
HOUSTON TEXANS (10-5) (vs. Jacksonville (5-10), Sunday, 1:00 PM ET, CBS)
Houston clinches AFC South division title and home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs with:
HOU win + NE loss or tie + KC loss + LAC loss + HOU clinches a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over KC
Houston clinches AFC South division title and a first-round bye with:
HOU win + NE loss or tie OR
HOU win + KC loss + LAC loss + HOU clinches a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over KC OR
HOU tie + NE loss OR
IND-TEN tie + NE loss + BAL win + HOU clinches a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over BAL
Houston clinches AFC South division title with:
HOU win or tie OR
IND-TEN tie
BALTIMORE RAVENS (9-6) (vs. Cleveland (7-7-1), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, CBS)
Baltimore clinches AFC North division title and a first-round bye with:
BAL win + NE loss + HOU loss + IND-TEN does not end in a tie OR
BAL win + NE loss + HOU loss + BAL clinches at least a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over HOU
Baltimore clinches AFC North division title with:
BAL win OR
PIT loss OR
BAL tie + PIT tie
Baltimore clinches a playoff berth with:
BAL tie + IND-TEN tie
LOS ANGELES CHARGERS (11-4) (at Denver (6-9), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, CBS)
Los Angeles clinches AFC West division title and home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs with:
LAC win + KC loss or tie OR
LAC tie + KC loss
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (9-6) (at Tennessee (9-6), Sunday night, 8:20 PM ET, NBC)
Indianapolis clinches AFC South division title with:
IND win + HOU loss
Indianapolis clinches a playoff berth with:
IND win OR
IND tie + PIT loss or tie OR
IND tie + BAL loss
TENNESSEE TITANS (9-6) (vs. Indianapolis (9-6), Sunday night, 8:20 PM ET, NBC)
Tennessee clinches AFC South division title and first-round bye with:
TEN win + HOU loss + NE loss + BAL loss or tie
Tennessee clinches AFC South division title with:
TEN win + HOU loss
Tennessee clinches a playoff berth with:
TEN win
PITTSBURGH STEELERS (8-6-1) (vs. Cincinnati (6-9), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, CBS)
Pittsburgh clinches AFC North division title with:
PIT win + BAL loss or tie OR
PIT tie + BAL loss
Pittsburgh clinches a playoff berth with:
PIT win + IND-TEN tie
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 25, 2018, 12:13 PM EST
Two teams already know their playoff seeds before Week 17: The Saints, who will be the NFC No. 1 seed, and the Cowboys, who will be the NFC No. 4 seed. After that, things are wide open.
Overall, 12 teams have scenarios in which they can clinch a playoff berth, a division, a first-round bye or home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. We’ll explore all of those scenarios, from the straightforward (Chiefs will have home-field advantage if they win) to the remote (Steelers will be a wild card if they win, and the Ravens win, and the Titans and Colts tie).
Here are the Week 17 playoff scenarios, as distributed by the NFL:
NFC
CLINCHED:
New Orleans Saints – NFC South division title and home-field advantage
Los Angeles Rams – NFC West division title
Chicago Bears – NFC North division title
Dallas Cowboys – NFC East division title
Seattle Seahawks – playoff berth
LOS ANGELES RAMS (12-3) (vs. San Francisco (4-11), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, FOX)
Los Angeles clinches a first-round bye with:
LAR win or tie OR
CHI loss or tie
CHICAGO BEARS (11-4) (at Minnesota (8-6-1), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, FOX)
Chicago clinches a first-round bye with:
CHI win + LAR loss
MINNESOTA VIKINGS (8-6-1) (vs. Chicago (11-4), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, FOX)
Minnesota clinches a playoff berth with:
MIN win or tie OR
PHI loss or tie
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (8-7) (at Washington (7-8), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, FOX)
Philadelphia clinches a playoff berth with:
PHI win + MIN loss
AFC
CLINCHED:
Kansas City Chiefs – Playoff berth
Los Angeles Chargers – Playoff berth
New England Patriots – AFC East division title
Houston Texans – Playoff berth
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (11-4) (vs. Oakland (4-11), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, CBS)
Kansas City clinches AFC West division title and home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs with:
KC win OR
KC tie + LAC loss or tie OR
LAC loss + NE loss or tie + HOU loss or tie OR
LAC loss + NE loss or tie + KC clinches at least a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over HOU
Kansas City clinches AFC West division title and a first-round bye with:
LAC loss + NE loss or tie OR
LAC loss + HOU loss or tie
LAC loss + KC clinches at least a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over HOU
Kansas City clinches AFC West division title with:
LAC loss OR
KC tie + LAC tie
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (10-5) (vs. New York Jets (4-11), Sunday, 1:00 PM ET, CBS)
New England clinches home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs with:
NE win + KC loss + LAC loss
New England clinches a first-round bye with:
NE win OR
NE tie + HOU loss or tie OR
BAL loss or tie + HOU loss + TEN loss or tie
HOUSTON TEXANS (10-5) (vs. Jacksonville (5-10), Sunday, 1:00 PM ET, CBS)
Houston clinches AFC South division title and home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs with:
HOU win + NE loss or tie + KC loss + LAC loss + HOU clinches a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over KC
Houston clinches AFC South division title and a first-round bye with:
HOU win + NE loss or tie OR
HOU win + KC loss + LAC loss + HOU clinches a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over KC OR
HOU tie + NE loss OR
IND-TEN tie + NE loss + BAL win + HOU clinches a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over BAL
Houston clinches AFC South division title with:
HOU win or tie OR
IND-TEN tie
BALTIMORE RAVENS (9-6) (vs. Cleveland (7-7-1), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, CBS)
Baltimore clinches AFC North division title and a first-round bye with:
BAL win + NE loss + HOU loss + IND-TEN does not end in a tie OR
BAL win + NE loss + HOU loss + BAL clinches at least a tie in strength of victory tiebreaker over HOU
Baltimore clinches AFC North division title with:
BAL win OR
PIT loss OR
BAL tie + PIT tie
Baltimore clinches a playoff berth with:
BAL tie + IND-TEN tie
LOS ANGELES CHARGERS (11-4) (at Denver (6-9), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, CBS)
Los Angeles clinches AFC West division title and home-field advantage throughout AFC playoffs with:
LAC win + KC loss or tie OR
LAC tie + KC loss
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (9-6) (at Tennessee (9-6), Sunday night, 8:20 PM ET, NBC)
Indianapolis clinches AFC South division title with:
IND win + HOU loss
Indianapolis clinches a playoff berth with:
IND win OR
IND tie + PIT loss or tie OR
IND tie + BAL loss
TENNESSEE TITANS (9-6) (vs. Indianapolis (9-6), Sunday night, 8:20 PM ET, NBC)
Tennessee clinches AFC South division title and first-round bye with:
TEN win + HOU loss + NE loss + BAL loss or tie
Tennessee clinches AFC South division title with:
TEN win + HOU loss
Tennessee clinches a playoff berth with:
TEN win
PITTSBURGH STEELERS (8-6-1) (vs. Cincinnati (6-9), Sunday, 4:25 PM ET, CBS)
Pittsburgh clinches AFC North division title with:
PIT win + BAL loss or tie OR
PIT tie + BAL loss
Pittsburgh clinches a playoff berth with:
PIT win + IND-TEN tie
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Not quite our Burnley game standard but thought this might be of interest to NFL fans...
New York Giants fans are fighting for their right to curse out their team.
Two Giants fans are alleging in a federal complaint filed in San Jose, Calif., last week that their free speech rights were violated when police officers at Levi’s Stadium arrested them for cursing and flipping off players.
According to the lawsuit, the incident occurred Nov. 12, 2017, in a game between the Giants and the San Francisco 49ers in Santa Clara. Brothers Kyle and Patrick Flynn started to give the middle finger to Giants players and shouted “you f-----g suck” at them.
There is a video of one being ejected.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/new-york ... -suit-says
New York Giants fans are fighting for their right to curse out their team.
Two Giants fans are alleging in a federal complaint filed in San Jose, Calif., last week that their free speech rights were violated when police officers at Levi’s Stadium arrested them for cursing and flipping off players.
According to the lawsuit, the incident occurred Nov. 12, 2017, in a game between the Giants and the San Francisco 49ers in Santa Clara. Brothers Kyle and Patrick Flynn started to give the middle finger to Giants players and shouted “you f-----g suck” at them.
There is a video of one being ejected.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/new-york ... -suit-says
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Giants won that game. Don't care what the Constitution says, don't act like Jets fans.
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Hard to see how the Saints aren't going to win the superbowl for me. They seem to be the only team who really have a top offence and defence.
Obviously anything can happen in cup games, but all the AFC contenders have too many weaknesses to be able to beat them. Don't think they can be outscored, maybe one of the strong defensive teams like Chicago might be able to restrict them.
I'm a Chiefs fan but can't see them even making the superbowl, for all Mahome's magic that defence leaks too many points.
Obviously anything can happen in cup games, but all the AFC contenders have too many weaknesses to be able to beat them. Don't think they can be outscored, maybe one of the strong defensive teams like Chicago might be able to restrict them.
I'm a Chiefs fan but can't see them even making the superbowl, for all Mahome's magic that defence leaks too many points.
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Another last min win for the Hawks over a very impressive cardinals team that shocked me with their win/loss record this season. They played really well, had more than enough chances to win but somehow failed to take them. Still Cowboys away in the playoffs and I'd much rather that than the Bears - with Treblisky (spelling) they look a formidable outfit.
Interesting times ahead.
Interesting times ahead.
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did the Saints rest a load of guys yesterday ?
coaching merry-go-round has started
Denver
Jets
Cards "expect"
anyone watching the Raiders/Chiefs game at all ?
Raiders line up after getting back into the game at least in terms of moving the ball.
Raiders TE (87 I think) is by the sidelines after "jogging" a route, wasn't even looking back at Carr. now he's walking and Carr is actually throwing him the ball.
Grateful corner/safety/LB grabs the ball and runs it back for a pick-six.
never seen anything like that in all my days watching football.
Shirley even if you are not the targeted receiver your never give up on the route. even if it's a running play it could have broken down and the QB needs help or at least you are trying to block ?
I couldn't believe my eyes and couldn't get the sound working so I have no idea what was said.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Facing a 2nd-and-10 at the 50-yard line with just under six minutes remaining in the first quarter, Raiders quarterback Derek Carr threw a pass in the direction of tight end Jared Cook. But Cook appeared to not realize the ball was coming to him and slowed up on the play, which allowed Chiefs safety Daniel Sorensen to pick off Carr's pass and take it 54 yards for a touchdown. The point after from Harrison Butker gave the Chiefs a 14-0 lead.
coaching merry-go-round has started
Denver
Jets
Cards "expect"
anyone watching the Raiders/Chiefs game at all ?
Raiders line up after getting back into the game at least in terms of moving the ball.
Raiders TE (87 I think) is by the sidelines after "jogging" a route, wasn't even looking back at Carr. now he's walking and Carr is actually throwing him the ball.
Grateful corner/safety/LB grabs the ball and runs it back for a pick-six.
never seen anything like that in all my days watching football.
Shirley even if you are not the targeted receiver your never give up on the route. even if it's a running play it could have broken down and the QB needs help or at least you are trying to block ?
I couldn't believe my eyes and couldn't get the sound working so I have no idea what was said.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Facing a 2nd-and-10 at the 50-yard line with just under six minutes remaining in the first quarter, Raiders quarterback Derek Carr threw a pass in the direction of tight end Jared Cook. But Cook appeared to not realize the ball was coming to him and slowed up on the play, which allowed Chiefs safety Daniel Sorensen to pick off Carr's pass and take it 54 yards for a touchdown. The point after from Harrison Butker gave the Chiefs a 14-0 lead.
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Who is/was Pigs of the Roman Empire on the ESPN game? Only me and you completed the whole 17 games and we tied on 127
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two good play off games today
Texans H to the Colts (going to be extremely tough)
Cowboys H to the SeaHawks - Hawks have better record but the Cowboys are a divisional winner as opposed to Seattle being a wild card..
Texans H to the Colts (going to be extremely tough)
Cowboys H to the SeaHawks - Hawks have better record but the Cowboys are a divisional winner as opposed to Seattle being a wild card..
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Thanks for the heads up CA. I totally forgot about this and as my insomnia has kicked in big time, I'll be up to watch this!
Go Hawks!
Go Hawks!
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no problem mate...
Texans failed to show up - no surprise there
Cowboys/Seahawks 3-3 2nd quarter right now...Cowboy player taken off after a long delay...not sure what happened as just got home....
Texans failed to show up - no surprise there
Cowboys/Seahawks 3-3 2nd quarter right now...Cowboy player taken off after a long delay...not sure what happened as just got home....
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Horrific ankle injury to Hurns. If you haven't seen it, don't look for it.Cuenca 'ammer wrote:no problem mate...
Texans failed to show up - no surprise there
Cowboys/Seahawks 3-3 2nd quarter right now...Cowboy player taken off after a long delay...not sure what happened as just got home....
Texans outcoached and Watson had a poor game. Had at least a half dozen passes fall short of their target, including the incompletion on 4th down just before the half when they should have kicked the FG. Had games like that in college, where he would be wildly inconsistent with his throws. Romeo Crennel sorted out the Texans defense at the half but they were already well behind and not enough offense to catch up, even with a touchdown gifted in spite of a replay showing pretty clearly it was a turnover.
Cowgirls should be cruising in this game but tied at 3. Think Seattle's experience will pull them through.
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