Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
Voted No.
As a ST Holder I've been bored shitless this season.
We won only 8 out of 22 home games this sason, I believe.
Lost 10 away league games.
Lost more games than we won.
Negative goal difference despite playing negative football.
A lack of goals.
Only once did we achieve back to back wins all season.
No rapport with the fans.
Poor transfers.
Stupid injury list - Only Dyers injury was unlucky. All other injurys are all muscle pulls or strains.
Being told players are nearly fit but then disappearing altoghether i.e Bowyer, Upson.
Appalling since Christmas.
Having no knowledge of European football.
Having no scouting network in place - forcing the appointment of Nani.
His love for Alex Ferguson.
As a ST Holder I've been bored shitless this season.
We won only 8 out of 22 home games this sason, I believe.
Lost 10 away league games.
Lost more games than we won.
Negative goal difference despite playing negative football.
A lack of goals.
Only once did we achieve back to back wins all season.
No rapport with the fans.
Poor transfers.
Stupid injury list - Only Dyers injury was unlucky. All other injurys are all muscle pulls or strains.
Being told players are nearly fit but then disappearing altoghether i.e Bowyer, Upson.
Appalling since Christmas.
Having no knowledge of European football.
Having no scouting network in place - forcing the appointment of Nani.
His love for Alex Ferguson.
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
My counter argument would be:k-r-c wrote:No. Based on his transfer policy. Negative style of play and incompetant backroom staff.
Transfer policy - run by someone else now, give it a chance
Negative style of play - two exciting 2-2 draws to round off the season at home?
incompetent backroom staff - we're told it's being looked into, surely worth seeing if the situation changes next year?
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Let's get it right ... Faubert has a torn achilles, Collins a ruptured cruciate and Davenport a broken neck.1895 wrote:Stupid injury list - Only Dyers injury was unlucky. All other injurys are all muscle pulls or strains.
Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
Last season P38 W12 D5 L21 F35 A59 PTS 41Roaring Repka wrote:Doesn't going from relegation certainties to a top-half Premier League side in 12 months constitute going somewhere?
This season P38 W13 D10 L15 F42 A50 PTS 49
I wouldn't say that that is going anywhere fantastic.
Spent £30m to gain 8 extra points, score 7 more goals and concede only 9 less.
Ok we sold players too but that was his choice, except maybe Tevez.
Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
Thats 3 out of 13. Collins and Davenport are not even Curbishley's first choice players.Up the Junction wrote: Let's get it right ... Faubert has a torn achilles, Collins a ruptured cruciate and Davenport a broken neck.
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Net spent five million, it's places rather than points and goals scored and conceded that counts, most of those points last season were won under Curbs anyway.1895 wrote: Last season P38 W12 D5 L21 F35 A59 PTS 41
This season P38 W13 D10 L15 F42 A50 PTS 49
I wouldn't say that that is going anywhere fantastic.
Spent £30m to gain 8 extra points, score 7 more goals and concede only 9 less.
Ok we sold players too but that was his choice, except maybe Tevez.
And to the other poster's argument about ten away losses, more losses than wins, negative goal difference - none of that is anything knew and I don't know quite what you were expecting. Our six away wins were double what Tottenham got anyway.
Another indicator of progress, if we have to speak about points won and all that sh*t, is that for a team that didn't beat Watford last season, only two teams did the double over us this year - Arsenal and Chelsea - I think that is impressive if not too significant in terms of progress, greater consistency, less losing home games to teams below us, etc.
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
Yes.
He finished above Sp*ds… that alone deserves another season!
He finished above Sp*ds… that alone deserves another season!
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
Also, eight points may not seem a lot, but it is. It's the sort of difference between Birmingham and Newcastle. Us and top seven. Liverpool and Chelsea. Everton and Liverpool. Significant differences between all those sides, and that's the sort of jump we've made.
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
I voted Yes but without much enthusiasm. We did have a lot of injuries but still finished in the top half so another season is warranted. I still think though that he’s not the guy to lead us long term.
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
It goes far deeper than that. Our form from January to May was more bottom 3 not top half of the table. We only ended up in the top half due to Spuds not performing and an inconsistent Newcastle. I think we ended up 10th in spite of Curbishley and not because of him.Roaring Repka wrote: Doesn't going from relegation certainties to a top-half Premier League side in 12 months constitute going somewhere?
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
Yes,
I want to see what this squad will do next season with Dyer, Bellamy and Faubert back, Ashton a bit sharper, and a central midfield understanding develop between Parker and Noble...
Even if we buy or sell nobody over the summer, we have a potential top 6 or 7 squad IMO.
If we are in the bottom 3 in December, I may change my mind though...
I want to see what this squad will do next season with Dyer, Bellamy and Faubert back, Ashton a bit sharper, and a central midfield understanding develop between Parker and Noble...
Even if we buy or sell nobody over the summer, we have a potential top 6 or 7 squad IMO.
If we are in the bottom 3 in December, I may change my mind though...
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
You say he has a poor scouting network.......Nani is appointed1895 wrote:Voted No.
As a ST Holder I've been bored shitless this season.
We won only 8 out of 22 home games this sason, I believe.
Lost 10 away league games.
Lost more games than we won.
Negative goal difference despite playing negative football.
A lack of goals.
Only once did we achieve back to back wins all season.
No rapport with the fans.
Poor transfers.
Stupid injury list - Only Dyers injury was unlucky. All other injurys are all muscle pulls or strains.
Being told players are nearly fit but then disappearing altoghether i.e Bowyer, Upson.
Appalling since Christmas.
Having no knowledge of European football.
Having no scouting network in place - forcing the appointment of Nani.
His love for Alex Ferguson.
You say we have a bad injury situation..........Specialists are brought in to revaluate the set up
You say we played negative football..............Chelsea, Man u and many other teams play 4-5-1 OR 4-3-3 and we only had to play this way because we had only one fit striker
You say poor transfers.................................Upson has been great, Parker has been great, Faubert and Bellers have been out for majority of the season.
The only real turkey is then LBM who was exceptional against united.
Really your scraping the barrel with the ferguson comment.... kind of underlines how poorly you have thought through your argument.
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
Whippersnapper! I'm 41 this week!!!PeteHerts wrote: Cheers.
I knew I was still good at maths even though I'm 41 next week :lol:
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
It's a Yes from me.
And the good news is we all know where the improvements need to come.
Sadly this division is all about building long term modest progress.
And the good news is we all know where the improvements need to come.
Sadly this division is all about building long term modest progress.
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
A resounding Yes from me, without even having to stop to think. We are West Ham, not Man City ffs. We don't sack our managers if we dont go from bottom 5 to champions in one year. Curbs needs time to prove himself, whether he proves to be good or bad in the long run.
One more season and see how were doing.
One more season and see how were doing.
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Big_Russ wrote: You say he has a poor scouting network.......Nani is appointed
Nani is appointed because of Curbishley's lack of knowledge and vision.
You say we have a bad injury situation..........Specialists are brought in to revaluate the set up
Yes because the Board were pissed off with all the injuries and believed Curbishleys methods were to blame.
You say we played negative football..............Chelsea, Man u and many other teams play 4-5-1 OR 4-3-3 and we only had to play this way because we had only one fit striker
They have the players and ability to play that way. We've never played 4-3-3. Why didn't he buy an extra striker in january then?
You say poor transfers.................................Upson has been great, Parker has been great, Faubert and Bellers have been out for majority of the season.
Upson has been a success, Parker hasn't and Faubert hasn't in the games that he has played.
The only real turkey is then LBM who was exceptional against united.
Boa Morte, Davenport, Quashie, Camara, Ljurnberg have all been turkeys.
Really your scraping the barrel with the ferguson comment.... kind of underlines how poorly you have thought through your argument.
Why? He was stupid to make the comments he did. Therefore my arguement was perfectly thought through.
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What he said with knobs on!sendô wrote:A resounding Yes from me, without even having to stop to think. We are West Ham, not Man City ffs. We don't sack our managers if we dont go from bottom 5 to champions in one year. Curbs needs time to prove himself, whether he proves to be good or bad in the long run.
One more season and see how were doing.
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Re: Alan Curbishley: the end of season poll
I came back to double check and yes, there is an "unsure" button in the poll.
How can anyone be "unsure" at this stage of the season whether they want Curbs back or not? What are they waiting for before being able to make a decision? Furthermore, what is the point of voting "unsure" anyway, don't those votes just get deleted or are we actually going to broadcast that X% of fans don't know whether they like Curbs or not?
"Don't care" might be appropriate, anywhere other than a WHU supporters forum. Perhaps "only if......." would work but then really...........is this not your classic YES/NO kind of thing?
How can anyone be "unsure" at this stage of the season whether they want Curbs back or not? What are they waiting for before being able to make a decision? Furthermore, what is the point of voting "unsure" anyway, don't those votes just get deleted or are we actually going to broadcast that X% of fans don't know whether they like Curbs or not?
"Don't care" might be appropriate, anywhere other than a WHU supporters forum. Perhaps "only if......." would work but then really...........is this not your classic YES/NO kind of thing?