Stratford 2012 [POLL]

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Do you support David Sullivan's plans to move WHUFC to the Olympic Stadium?

Poll ended at Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:43 pm

Yes
376
54%
No
146
21%
Depends
163
23%
 
Total votes : 685

Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Pop Robson on Wed May 19, 2010 5:56 pm

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Doesn't matter how many different mocks up there are the pitch will still be surrounded by an Olympic sized running track, even if it's covered in gold.

As for claret & blue all over the place more chance of winning £84M on the Lottery
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby AJ on Wed May 19, 2010 8:37 pm

So they would need to extend the roof? I got a contact who is involved with the construction of the roof going on at the moment and the roof alone is costing £40m.

So we move in and want to replace it, and have to spend another £40m?! :|
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Pop Robson on Wed May 19, 2010 9:16 pm

AJ wrote:So they would need to extend the roof? I got a contact who is involved with the construction of the roof going on at the moment and the roof alone is costing £40m.

So we move in and want to replace it, and have to spend another £40m?! :|


and that's for a temporary roof, designed to be taken down after the games.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Northern Paulo on Thu May 20, 2010 12:15 am

Pop Robson wrote:[quoteSo they would need to extend the roof? I got a contact who is involved with the construction of the roof going on at the moment and the roof alone is costing £40m.

So we move in and want to replace it, and have to spend another £40m?! :quote]


and that's for a temporary roof, designed to be taken down after the games.

Frigging hell! A temporary roof, a temporary tier, temporary seats..... So the Olympic Committee wanted a 'lasting legacy' which means practically rebuilding the stadium after its been used for a couple of weeks. Talk about p*ssing your money away! :lol:
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby mattjp on Thu May 20, 2010 12:17 am

In fairness to them, they had a clear plan to reduce the capacity to 25k after the Olympics, which meant that the upper tiers were obviously temporary.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Northern Paulo on Thu May 20, 2010 12:35 am

mattjp wrote:In fairness to them, they had a clear plan to reduce the capacity to 25k after the Olympics, which meant that the upper tiers were obviously temporary.

Yes, and I thought it was a crap idea then. :lol:

Lets face it, it was a badly thought out plan from the start, with the 'Its only going to be an atheltics track after the Games' idea. Now they realise that perhaps they might have been a little hasty with that statement. They've effectively wasted £millions (throughout a recession as well) and thats not including the almost half a £million on designing two mascots!

You just know its going to pee down with rain in the summer of 2012 don't you.:lol:
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Richard WHUFC on Thu May 20, 2010 1:06 am

yeah terribly planned, as for banners, signage etc that wouldn't be a problem, would be a cheap way for them to brand it as West Ham, still Im gonna email to add to the voices against the running track, and generally being miles away from the action.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Westbourne Bill on Thu May 20, 2010 1:13 am

Judging by the KUMB poll.....the majority of fans are in favour of this move.They would only need to point to that survey to claim they have listened to the fans in pressing ahead.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Richard WHUFC on Thu May 20, 2010 1:22 am

I just emailed them this....

Hi there,

Good to see the website encourging feedback and hope Mr Sullivan and Mr Gold are true to their word about the listening to the fans. The 10 point plan all sounded pretty good so we will see how they get on.

As I'm sure you are already aware a major issue for most West Ham supporters is the plans for moving into the Olympic Stadium and particularly the running track and the distance you would be from the pitch. West Ham used to be renowned for having supporters right at the edge of the pitch, which in turn created a cracking atmosphere, the stands are further back now (already too far in my opinion) but this would be nothing when compared to the distances, both at the side and behind the goals, at the Olympic Stadium.

Though the opportunity is a good one, I believe it should be completely on our terms, I feel like we hold all the aces as West Ham moving into the stadium is such an obvious thing to happen, but I am really worried this would be the beginning of the end of West Ham as we know it. I feel we would lose alot of our identity as a club, which is our strong point, not many clubs can compare to West Ham when it comes to character, and it would put off alot of people who have been loyal followers of West Ham for years. I can't see myself wanting to go there.

Tottenham have listened to their supporters with one tiered stands behind the goals and supporters close to the pitch, I hope West Ham do the same and if need be, spend a bit of money on it, if not I fear we could have a half empty (prob sponsored) soul-less bowl in a few years, no matter how cheap the tickets are.

Sorry to go on but just want to express how strongly I feel about this.

Thanks for your time
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby GideaParkHammer on Thu May 20, 2010 1:24 am

Northern Paulo wrote:Yes, and I thought it was a crap idea then. :lol:

Lets face it, it was a badly thought out plan from the start, with the 'Its only going to be an atheltics track after the Games' idea. Now they realise that perhaps they might have been a little hasty with that statement. They've effectively wasted £millions (throughout a recession as well) and thats not including the almost half a £million on designing two mascots!

You just know its going to pee down with rain in the summer of 2012 don't you.:lol:


I have pretty much been like a broken record in regards to my opposition to a move to the Olympic Stadium from pretty much day 1. However, just because the ODA have not bent over and allowed us to do what we want with the Stadium, it does not mean they have been hasty.

When we bid for the OIympics, we championed two key legacies. The first was the regeneration of that part of the East End, and the second was to create a stadium that would further Athletics in Britain, and allow London to host Grand Prix events. Other parties were given plenty of opportunity to express an interest. There were no concrete offers. If there was, a stadium could have been built that would have suited both parties. So the ODA kept to the original plan of reducing the size of the stadium after the Olympics. We may not have won the bid if we had not had these two legacy promises.

The whole park has cost a lot of money, but how many jobs were created in this time of recession? Also, you can not just look at costs, we also need to factor in revenue. We will not know for sure until after the Olympics whether they show a profit or not. Would it be a waste if the East End gets a new park, a world class aquatics centre and veledrome and the whole event has shown a profit?

You also need to take into account other factors. Look at the investment in housing, both in the park and in Stratford Town Centre. Look at the new Westfield centre. A whole area that was previously wasteland will have been regenerated.

As for the Mascots, again we should not just look at costs. Whether you like them or not, the mascots will generate more revenue than they cost in merchandising alone.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby GideaParkHammer on Thu May 20, 2010 1:26 am

Westbourne Bill wrote:Judging by the KUMB poll.....the majority of fans are in favour of this move.They would only need to point to that survey to claim they have listened to the fans in pressing ahead.


That is why a new poll is really needed as the poll was started before most of the facts were released. I would guess that a large percentage of those voting yes, did so believing there would be no track
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Up the Junction on Thu May 20, 2010 1:31 am

GideaParkHammer wrote:That is why a new poll is really needed...

I agree GPH.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby NorthBank86 on Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:41 pm

Just skimming through some old threads and came across this, certainly worth a bump up and a re-read, as we approach the halfway point in our new home and the Boleyn nears it's final days.

Hindsight is of course a luxury that no one has. Interesting thought that whilst the 2010 poll is unequivocally in favour of the move, the comments posted by many KUMBers were, sadly, quite prophetic.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Thekorean on Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:46 pm

GideaParkHammer wrote:That is why a new poll is really needed as the poll was started before most of the facts were released. I would guess that a large percentage of those voting yes, did so believing there would be no track


Technically there is no track.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby westham,eggyandchips on Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:51 pm

There will be a few embarrassed by the comments they made back in 2010. Admittedly it was without any knowledge of how the stadium was gonna be converted. The most divisive decision ever made by our club and the board had us tricked from day one.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby the pink palermo on Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:56 pm

westham,eggyandchips wrote:There will be a few embarrassed by the comments they made back in 2010. .

:D

You're not wrong .

Back then I supported the owners , fortunately though not the move .
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Colours never run on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:15 pm

Never did and never will understand or see the benefits of the move outweighing what we had.

We've given so much away now which used to be to our advantage, be it the old Ground (owned), area/local businesses, intensity, control, a much better matchday experience, all that's tangible that really remains now is the fans and even many of those die hards are feeling so disillusioned with it all and are either turning their backs on what we've now become or being banned/moved/ill-treated.

The only 'advantage' I can see by moving is financially gaining an extra £10million a year, coming from the horses mouth and I just don't see that being anywhere close to justifying the move. I certainly don't believe the bull**** about it being a lot easier attracting better players due to playing in the former Olympic Stadium, especially now after all the bad publicity that's surrounded it. The likes of Payet, Lanzini, Carroll, Kouyate, Obiang, Ogbonna were not put off with what we had and we've attracted nothing since the summer that suggests the Stadium move attracts much better quality.

All it now means is we have to make the best of a very shitty situation in a poorly arranged and managed Stadium.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Coops on Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:37 pm

They promised us the moon on a stick.
So far they haven't even delivered the stick.
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Pop Robson on Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:37 pm

Great fun reading the old posts over 6yrs old, I wasn't too keen back then not sure why !!!!!

No one mentioned popcorn though :shock:
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Re: Stratford 2012 [POLL]

Postby Blow Bubbles on Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:40 pm

Pop Robson wrote:No one mentioned popcorn though :shock:


I know, right?!! Every cloud, eh?
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