Peaches wrote:The mirror are saying we are aster Tom Davies from Everton, and a couple of the other red tops are saying Fellaini and Dendoncker and the ever present Shelvey links. Two of those 4 would do us nicely, but I would like Andre Gomes over all of them.
This site is running with a swap deal for Davies with Antonio going the other way .
Much as I like Davies , he's a tigerish young player , only 19 , not sure we should sacrifice Antonio , but if he is being a bit of an arse as is being said on here then yeah I can see it happening .
p.s. not sure how serious of a site this Royal Blue Mersey is as they describe Antonio as our Left Back .
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Did not realise Davies was that young. Seems to be a very capable player already, that young then bags of potential as well. Big question though is why would Everton want to sell? Also if Sam is after all these attackers what does that mean for Calvert-Lewin, another youngster who seems to have bags of pace and loads of potential.
Antonio is one of our best transfer asset. I feel there will always be a lower-half club naive enough to pay a premium for him. After all even experienced operators like Spurs and Levey have been proned to transfer mistakes of Sissoko-sized proportions. Some naive club will look at Antonio and see only the athlete, and that'll be enough for them to bite.
We shouldn't be looking at trade deals where the targets are the likes of the Tom Davies of the world. They might have potential but still unproven. Instead, we should extract maximum value for Antonio and use it to fund transfers for the likes of Carvalho - players that have already 'done' it at a high level for both club and country, in their prime and have competed against the likes of Barca in the Champions League on a regular basis.
Davies has 46 Premier League appearances and isn’t 20 for 6 months. Antonio is 27, 28 in two and a half months and has 70 Premier league appearances.he has scored twice in his last 35 premier league matches and has not generated an assist in a year. On top of that he has been reported to be too big for his boots, wants out, is on a huge wage and does not have a great injury record.
If we could get Tom Davies plus a bit of cash for Antonio, I’d drive him to Liverpool myself.
Notice Snodders bagged another couple for Villa yesterday. I’ll say it again, he got a raw deal at the club and I would be very interested to see what Moyes could do with him.
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ironilunga wrote:Notice Snodders bagged another couple for Villa yesterday. I’ll say it again, he got a raw deal at the club and I would be very interested to see what Moyes could do with him.
Villa won 1-0 with Hogan scoring their goal. He did get an assist for it though.
HammerMan2004 wrote:Snodgrass was ****ing awful for us.
He was only at the club for 3 months and under a manager that was starting lose the plot. Hardly a fair crack of the whip!
He is clearly a premier league player as opposed to a championship player and I predict we would see a totally different player under Moyes. Probably wont find out anyway but should get our money back when we sell him.
jevs wrote:Villa won 1-0 with Hogan scoring their goal. He did get an assist for it though.
Excellent point Jevs. Having realised I was reading a result from earlier in January I was just deciding on whether or not to discreetly edit my post. To keep my error secret I would now need to drag you into my conspiracy, which may require cash payments depending on your character.
I would rather sell Snodgrass because he is 30 now and this will be the best time to recoup some of our money back.Also I would sell him because as a player he will not fit our system.Moyes likes us to defend deep and break away at pace on the counter attack.I would prefer us to sell him and sign a younger replacement 21-25 age bracket and with pace and skill.
would not want Snodgrass back over 30 and useless for us. time to move on. also gsb will treat him as a new signing no doubt !
I would like Cullen oxford rice and burke added to first team squad and to get some games. lets see if they can make it with us.
carroll Snodgrass sakho are players we need to shift.
I would add Hernandez to that list but we need some strikers left. maybe he will get a chance as we now start playing it on the ground and no more hoofball to carroll !
we need a new RB although byram is nearly back and hopefully can stay fit for rest of the season
DM needed as not convinced by obiang and kouyate both being in the team at the same time.
striker - young and pacey and injury free hopefully. Dembele ?
attacking midfielder shelvey seems the obvious one .
in the summer need to clear out deadwood including fonte zabaleta and sakho or carroll if still here.
Personally, I wouldn’t want Snodgrass back. Seems a good bloke, and he did have poor start here that wasn’t exactly his fault, but for me, we always play better when we have pace. Arnie and Lanzini together yesterday were brilliant. Running at defenders, making them panic, it was lovely to watch. Snodgrass is too slow for that in my opinion - would only slow us down.
Would rather get our 10m back for him from Villa in the summer and move on.
Antonio can also go. Didn’t realise the stats were so bad for him - 2 goals in his last 35 games and zero assists in a year?! Pathetic. As mentioned previously, I’m sure someone could take a 20m gamble on him.