The Rebirth wrote:What about the kids?
My son comes home from school and tells me that everyone supports Chelsea and we live in South West London nobody supports Fulham hardly! how could Chelsea who struggled to fill their ground a decade ago (and still do some nights) eclipse Fulham so much considering they were both Premier League teams at the time of Abromovich coming in...
Money can buy you success who has more money than us T*ttenham.. who has more success than us? T*ttenham... who do you think these kids around the area are likely to support? and the neutrals? day trippers? etc
Levy and Lewis are not idiots they know how to make money. They see the OS as a cash cow.
This is our chance to grow. T*ttenham are just a small club in North London but bigger than us.
They're not coming for their affiliation to the area they're coming for the money.
Monkey Spanner wrote:
None of that matters. As long as we're safe in the knowledge that we won't lose PP's support.
Taking a few of your points Rebirth .
Tottenham currently have a ground with the same or very very similar to the Boleyn - so how are they able to generate considerably higher money than us ? Perhaps they invested in the team first , justifying higher prices and more TV exposure .
Your referral to them as a small club .....once we get past the issue of local rivalry an impartial observer may point out they have won more trophies than us over the years - that's why some people think they are bigger .
Levy and Lewis knowing how to make money ? Yes , for 5 of the last 6 years it's been by selling players for more than they paid .This year they'll make money ( just ) by being in the CL, but next seasons number will again be driven by player sales - probably Bale .Their culmulative losses in those 6 years are £45m , so whilst Lewis is undoubtedly a shrewd businessman professional football doesn't lend itself to be a very profitable enterprise except at the point you sell up and hope the next fool pays you more than you shelled out .Like our owners did at Birmingham .
Sure, spending money can buy you success - Liverpool used to have loads and they won everything , Blackburn bought the league , Manure have dominated for ages, Chelsea had a turn , and Arsenal may yet win things before City see the reward of massive expenditure .I have yet to see any financial projections for the OS - are you not concerned the talk is of lower ticket prices if the idea is to make more money ? Have we any definitive statement saying the profits from the joint venture will actually be spent on players ?
I'm sceptical as to the success of the entire thing - some parts of it will be enormously successful for the club , other parts less so , but the whole thing ? Personally I'm not convinced . I'm certain though that the risks are huge .
And why are Spurs desiring Stratford ? Not for the stadium - thats clear .They want the infrastucture - trains etc , or rather someone else having paid for it .I do believe we wanted it for a "land grab" - as a blocking device to prevent the migration of drifting support to Arsenal , Chelsea and to a far lesser extent Spurs - I understand that reason , I just feel a crap stadium is too high a price to pay for that .
I don't care who the kids in the area support .They're not my kids .If they were mine, they'd support West Ham , even if Levy parked his car on my drive on match days.I've posted several times the one small shred of comfort from the whole enterprise is if cheaper tickets are available to the economically disadvantaged - even though that would probably be counter productive in terms of making more money .
Anyway - it doesn't matter .There was no consultation , the owners made a decision they felt they were entitled to make , and we'll be playing in Stratford in 3 years .I know there are a fair few on here who hold out hope for retractable seating and some miracle cure to get the view better - well I don't .If that was likely we wouldn't have references concerning the back of the stand distance to the pitch .
Good luck to those that go to Stratford, I hope it gives them all they want .
I won't be joining them .
Monkeyspanner - not too sure what you're trying to do with your comment, so I won't reply .
