EU complainant revealed

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EU complainant revealed

Postby hamagram on Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:24 am

Turns out its the original architect of the stadium. Steve Lawrence.
Disputes it being anonymous.
Says it was because of fears that west ham may not have been able to repay the £40 mil pound loan, if another club had complained about it being a state subsidy. leaving us homeless after having to hand the stadium back.
Suggests converting the stadium to football only with a ground share with orient and UK athletics developing the warm up area.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby Lost Hammer on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:12 am

Personally I thought he made some very good points. It could well have gone all tits up had we moved there and the cancellation was a blessing in disguise. Further to this, it could end up better for us if the government listen to Steve Lawrence and actually plan a legacy for the stadium that doesn't include an athletics track.

To be honest, what he's said is just common sense. I think everyone knew it was going to be a white elephant if the legacy committee had their way.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby beckton on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:24 am

If it wasn't anonymous complaint, why hasn't he mentioned it it was him before?


To be fair, he did raise some important points but being a bit cynical about all the goings on over this I just doubt his real motives. We'll probably find out he's a Spurs season ticket holder.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby paulhs1 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:55 am

Says it was because of fears that west ham may not have been able to repay the £40 mil pound loan, if another club had complained about it being a state subsidy. leaving us homeless after having to hand the stadium back.


beckton wrote:To be fair, he did raise some important points but being a bit cynical about all the goings on over this I just doubt his real motives. We'll probably find out he's a Spurs season ticket holder.


Or he could be a West Ham fan!


Perhaps the OPLC and our owners should take notice when the architect of the stadium says how it's not fit for football and that the stadium will not work with football and athletics sharing.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby Lost Hammer on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:05 am

And another thing, if the actual architect says his own design wouldn't work as mixed athletics and football, then people really should listen to him.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby taffhammer on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:19 am

Just watched the interview and finally someone who knows a thing or two is talking some sense.If he ,the architect, thinks it won't work for football then it's time to listen.As he suggests the warm up track becomes the athletics venue thus leaving the olympic stadium free to be converted for football then thats what should be done.
I've been all for the move as location has great advantages but you have to listen to the guy who designed it.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby Paddy O'Hammer on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:39 am

I bet Seb Coe and his running, jumping and throwing buddies are fuming!
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby Mr_Andersonn on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:46 am

beckton wrote:If it wasn't anonymous complaint, why hasn't he mentioned it it was him before?


To be fair, he did raise some important points but being a bit cynical about all the goings on over this I just doubt his real motives. We'll probably find out he's a Spurs season ticket holder.


Maybe somebody should review his bank account. More than likely he received a bung to carry out this deed.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby paulhs1 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:00 pm

Mr_Andersonn wrote:Maybe somebody should review his bank account. More than likely he received a bung to carry out this deed.

He has been paid a fat cats salary! What does it matter to him what happens to the stadium post Olympics!


If he has any pride in his work/job, then he wont want to be associated with a white elephant, which it no doubt will be if shared with football and athletics.

How many more leading experts need to come out and say it won't work before the penny drops!
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby GeorgeParris'Pet on Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:30 pm

Lost Hammer wrote:And another thing, if the actual architect says his own design wouldn't work as mixed athletics and football, then people really should listen to him.


You'd think so.

A new poll might be interesting.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby StiffUpper on Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:56 pm

He's been saying it for a while. This time last year he was suggesting a ground-share with Spurs **shudder**

http://www.insideworldfootball.biz/prem ... -architect
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby beckton on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:32 pm

paulhs1 wrote:
If he has any pride in his work/job, then he wont want to be associated with a white elephant, which it no doubt will be if shared with football and athletics.

How many more leading experts need to come out and say it won't work before the penny drops!



Except this bloke didn't design the stadium.

That's why only slightly tongue in cheek I asked if he was a Spurs season ticket holder and what his real agenda was.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby paulhs1 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:51 pm

beckton wrote:
Except this bloke didn't design the stadium.

That's why only slightly tongue in cheek I asked if he was a Spurs season ticket holder and what his real agenda was.


When I say " of the stadium" I mean the designer of the original plan" ! Either way he doesnt think it will work!
Am I sensing a change of your thoughts on Stratford Beckers!
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby beckton on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:09 pm

You actually said in a previous post "architect of the stadium", I read that as architect of the stadium! :lol:


As I've said in previous posts, with Spurs now out of it, I'd prefer us to now walk away and see if the government comes running to us to take it of their hands after the World Championships. Then build a football stadium on the site.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby uptonparkhurst on Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:04 pm

The deliberate under-costing of the Olympics by Ken et al to make it more attractive to the punters.
The ticketing scandal and the closing down of road lanes for the benefit of the IOC
Coe and Westfield not wanting football anywhere near the O/S originally
The insistence on the "legacy" of a running track
Orient and Spuds sticking their oar in, bleating about unfair public subsidies
Spuds receiving a public subsidy towards a new ground, and being allowed to forego the building of affordable housing.
And now the revelation that it (allegedly) wasn't them that made the "anonymous" complaint to the EU, but an expert.
What a shambles! -you couldn't make it up if you tried.

Walk away, Renee - I mean G&S.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby Doc H Ball on Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:17 pm

If SuGo go for this now we will know once and for all that they are in it for themselves and to hell with what they leave us with.

Still no plans. Still no consultation. 23 March decision time and not a word from the club...

State of the art stadium :lol:
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby taffhammer on Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:32 pm

taffhammer wrote:Just watched the interview and finally someone who knows a thing or two is talking some sense.If he ,the architect, thinks it won't work for football .


I should have watched it more closely as i thought he was the architect, he wasn't.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby Hammer110 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:13 pm

Just to get this straight as far as I am aware this guy had about as much to do the with the design stadium as I did, the only named architect for the stadium is Sir Peter Cook who worked with Populus to design the stadium.

His sole involvement appears to have been been:

Over 10 years ago, Lawrence was commissioned by Stratford Development Partnership to carry out an alternative feasibility study for the Olympics once it became clear that Wembley would never be a viable location


It's big jump from writing a site feasibility study to being the designer of the stadium, as far as I can find out he and his partners are not exactly major players most of their projects seem to involve domestic properties or small scale renovations.
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Re: EU complainant revealed

Postby westham,eggyandchips on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:41 pm

Lost Hammer wrote:And another thing, if the actual architect says his own design wouldn't work as mixed athletics and football, then people really should listen to him.


Spot-on mate. Hopefully G, S & B are taking note.
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