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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby MrBen on Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:44 pm

I can't wait for the days when ManU / Liverpool / Chelsea & Spurs bring thousands to the OS and take the p*ss around East London.

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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby bendavids on Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:51 pm

warp wrote:more or less "whatever you want, just give us the stadium" while bending over.

surely i'm just being a bit too pessimistic... (?)


Far too pessimistic!
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Aztec Hammer on Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:53 pm

STL Hammer wrote:Does anyone know what EXACTLY our terms were?


Karren Brady - "I should be clear that any move to the Stadium is conditional on the fact that it must provide an arena that is fit for world-class and feels like home to our deserving fans.''

That sounds like retractable seating and West Ham branding. That would go hand in hand with what ClungeWHU is reporting.

Never know with Karren though. Could just as likely be complete bull**** as it could be the truth.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Pop Robson on Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:02 pm

Wembley1966 wrote:Adam Jackson ‏ @Adzman89
Clungewhu. Whu have been advised to bid again. We will win the bid (AGAIN) on very favourable terms.


Ain't got a scooby who this Adam Jackson is, but he's saying here what a lot of others are when asked if they'll go

Adam Jackson ‏ @Adzman89
@msmith85 @Alder32 all depends on the view. If my view is too far away I won't go anymore
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Aztec Hammer on Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:07 pm

Question for anyone that is more well versed on the matter than me.

Could there be any chance that the running track would be ripped out post-2017 World Athletics Championships?

I'd guess after that event it would be quite a long time before we hosted another major athletics event and maybe then the government/OPLC/whoever it is would do a U-turn and scrap the track, making it fully viable for football? Maybe those in charge would think that by this point there would be less of a public furore if they got rid of the track after having used it for both an Olympics and World Championships?

Or maybe, and more likely, I am just clutching at straws in the hope that some good will come out of all of this. :lol:
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby warp on Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:14 pm

Aztec Hammer wrote:That sounds like retractable seating and West Ham branding.


you got it right. it sounds like.

by the way, no one ever said that an arena fit for world-class football has to be without a running track.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby WHUTerry on Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:46 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/four-bids-for-olympic-stadium-7583764.html

Welcome news and one of only 4 bids it would seem. Anyone know who the other 3 are?
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Aztec Hammer on Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:17 pm

Well let's hope we set the precedent then because I sure as hell can't think of an example.

Juve and Torino. Espanyol. Bayern. Roma and Lazio do not like the Olimpico.

Since Bayern moved in 2005, they have seen crowds almost double in their new home the Allianz Arena with the ground sold out for every game. Here's some comments from Bayern's club spokesman:

"The Olympic Stadium in Munich holds almost 70,000 but our attendances were around 35,000. In the Allianz Arena, attendances have gone up to 69,000 because we can cater for the demands of the fan. The Olympic Stadium has been good to Bayern but it was open and cold. It had little atmosphere and the fan experience suffered. We considered trying to redevelop the Olympic Stadium but there were too many problems. It was not even used for the 2006 World Cup when it was staged in Germany".

No one may have ever said that an arena fit for world-class has to be without a running track but many have sure said that their stadium with a running track has not been fit for world-class .

Let's hope we figure out something groundbreaking. Literally.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby The Collector on Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:22 pm

WHUTerry wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/four-bids-for-olympic-stadium-7583764.html

Welcome news and one of only 4 bids it would seem. Anyone know who the other 3 are?


So, we can assume that neither LEYTON Orient or TOTTENHAM Hotspur want to move to Newham?

That leaves the other bids to come from either entertainment consortiums who would mix concerts and other sports such as athletics, cricket, rugby or it could be a new Kingdom Hall.

From a WHUFC perspective (if you are a supporter of the bid) this is a win win situation. Any consortium which wins the bid would have to invite us to be a partner..... after first inviting a premier league team from north London, who will decline, and a small team from a neighbouring borough who may accept.

Even after the decision is made there is still some deals to be struck. We are in for an interesting ride.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby ForeverHammers on Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:35 pm

West Ham United, Live Nation, AEG and 1 other then.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Aztec Hammer on Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:36 pm

Definitely in for an interesting ride. Would I be right in saying that these entertainment consortiums would not be a viable winter option like we would be? Can't have a concert in December without a roof. And they wouldn't be able to change that easily if they were only leasing the stadium.

We need to get everything we can out of this process. We are clearly the only viable solution. Only 3 other bids is probably not what the OPLC were expecting. I seem to remember reading suggestions that there would be around 15 other interested parties. We need to be allowed to implement retractable seating as an essential, as well as have free reign over branding etc. I'm not an expert with all of that, but I have enough common sense to know we need to use our position as leverage to get as much as we can out of the process, much like Spurs did earlier on.

As for Orient, living one road away from the ground, I can testify to what a proper pony club they are. Nothing team, with nothing fans. For an almost multi-ethnic enclave like Leyton, I can safely say that there is practically zero support for the club among those who actually live here. Most of the fans are Spuds and Gooners anyway. Used to be some too but let's hope that bridge is burned. To think I used to occasionally go to games... That Hearn's a proper greedy helm.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby warp on Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:49 pm

Aztec Hammer wrote:Let's hope we figure out something groundbreaking. Literally.


don't get me wrong, i don't like running tracks and i think that even ****-class should be without a running track, my point is that they can say they want an arena fit for world class football and stick with a running track regardless, saying that "look at some of the past champions league finals, they've been played in grounds with running tracks..." or crap like that :)
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby RyanWHUFC on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:12 pm

Karren Brady - "I should be clear that any move to the Stadium is conditional on the fact that it must provide an arena that is fit for world-class football and feels like home to our deserving fans.''


World class football and West Ham of late, surely not? :lol:
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby eastsider on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:25 pm

How long I wonder before Barry Hearn is in the media going on about "little old Leyton Orient" being treated badly and how he will go to some court or another!! :asleep:
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby durham city hammer on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:27 pm

Can somebody answer me this, if we are awarded the stadium ( again) whats to stop Leyton Orient or anybody else dragging this through the courts again? whats different from the last time?
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby eastsider on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:29 pm

durham city hammer wrote:Can somebody answer me this, if we are awarded the stadium ( again) whats to stop Leyton Orient or anybody else dragging this through the courts again? whats different from the last time?


Good question! I think they have tried to tighten it all up but there is nothing stopping old Barry going to court if his pockets are deep enough.... :eh:
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby demonstimpy on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:41 pm

MrBen wrote:I can't wait for the days when ManU / Liverpool / Chelsea & Spurs bring thousands to the OS and take the p*ss around East London.

:x


Or Barnsley at this rate.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby hadleighhammer on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:46 pm

Karren Brady wrote: I can assure them their feedback has been instrumental in informing the Board's approach to our bid.


b*llocks. :evil:
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Fortunes always on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:57 pm

eastsider wrote:How long I wonder before Barry Hearn is in the media going on about "little old Leyton Orient" being treated badly and how he will go to some court or another!! :asleep:



That's what i was thinking,what's to stop Hearn & Orient going through the same 'legal' wrangles that put the brakes on our last (successful) bid.All i can see are more problems..............
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby STL Hammer on Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:05 pm

ForeverHammers wrote:West Ham United, Live Nation, AEG and 1 other then.


Heard on Talkshyte there a dozen bidders, but cant confirm if thats true, Weren't London Wasps going to bid? And I thought Orient and Hearn were so keen on getting to a new stadium and telling everyone they had "won" when the deal first collapsed, and that OS is closest to them so they should get it, why are they not bidding now? Bunch of morons if you ask me.
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