New bid submitted.

[boleyn77]

Dads as well Pop. He has been going BG for over 64 years. How can they do this to us? West Ham is my life, and I am sure you feel the same. When I think of the plastic day trippers who would visit that monsrosity when we play, just to visit the Olympic Stadium turrns my stomach, whilst the true fans with claret and blue in thier blood who feel so angry about this, are left frustrated as that bloody gruesome three take away everyhting that has been a major part of our lives over the years. I for one will never forgive them for what they intend to do to our club

Written by a true Fan - something the old boiler Brady will never understand.

Your words are spot on fella

[NorthBankAlliance]

Dads as well Pop. He has been going BG for over 64 years. How can they do this to us? is my life, and I am sure you feel the same. When I think of the plastic day trippers who would visit that monsrosity when we play, just to visit the Olympic Stadium turrns my stomach, whilst the true fans with claret and blue in thier blood who feel so angry about this, are left frustrated as that bloody gruesome three take away everyhting that has been a major part of our lives over the years. I for one will never forgive them for what they intend to do to our club

Couldn't of put it better myself, sad day.

[Posh-Hammer]

I am female Boleyn, born a Hammer, die a Hammer. Been going to the BG for 40 odd years. I would like to get that Brady woman by the neck and bounce the c.. to Stratford and stick her on top of the Olympic flame!

[Hammer110]

Well let's hope we set the precedent then because I sure as hell can't think of an example.

Juve and Torino. Espanyol. Bayern. Roma and Lazio do not like the Olimpico.

Since Bayern moved in 2005, they have seen crowds almost double in their new home the Allianz Arena with the ground sold out for every game. Here's some comments from Bayern's club spokesman:

"The Olympic Stadium in Munich holds almost 70,000 but our attendances were around 35,000. In the Allianz Arena, attendances have gone up to 69,000 because we can cater for the demands of the fan. The Olympic Stadium has been good to Bayern but it was open and cold. It had little atmosphere and the fan experience suffered. We considered trying to redevelop the Olympic Stadium but there were too many problems. It was not even used for the 2006 World Cup when it was staged in Germany".

Not really comparable to the London O/S, the Munich stadium was really only suitable for summer use as it is open on one side and when Bayern tried to get permission to enclose it completely the architect's family refused allow it, which resulted in the new build.

http://en.petrophoto.net/picture-olympi ... 06-851-htm

[Posh-Hammer]

Hammer110, its an athletics stadium, not a football stadium, retractable seating etc will not change this fact.

[boleyn77]

I am female Boleyn, born a Hammer, die a Hammer. Been going to the BG for 40 odd years. I would like to get that Brady woman by the neck and bounce the c.. to Stratford and stick her on top of the Olympic flame!

Apologies for assuming your gender.

I would sponsor you to do that to Brady!

In my four decades at the BG i've never detested anyone like i do her.

[Hammer110]

Hammer110, its an athletics stadium, not a stadium, retractable seating etc will not change this fact.

Getaway! You mean it has a running track?

I was talking about comparing Munich to London, two totally different stadiums and Bayern would have stayed with the track had they have been able to enclose the stadium, it was their plan A.

And anyway I don't know why everyone is throwing their toys out over the bid, the club have declared we wont be going unless it is "converted in to a "world-class" 60,000-seater football ground", so unless the OPLC/Government spend an awful lot of cash it looks like we wont be going anywhere!

[Posh-Hammer]

Don't apologise Boleyn, its natural to assume I am a fella,it is a mans game after all. Totally agree with you re Brady. They may be the investors but we the fans are the true owner off West Ham United fc

[Posh-Hammer]

Hammer110 it has been built to host the Olympic Games so yes it has a running track, a long jump, a high jump,etc, because it is an athletics stadium. So good news then if we dont get it and long may we continue to play football in our football stadium.

[Hammer110]

My response was supposed to be sarcasm, not serious! Obviously it failed.

Of course it has a running track, but that doesn't mean it would be impossible to convert it into a football stadium if you spent enough money, and I don't think there is anyone on here who is qualified (engineer, architect etc) least that's let themselves be known to say otherwise, whether there is enough money available is a different question.

Most people are looking at an athletics stadium and saying that aint suitable for us, me I am looking at a shell and thinking if it can be converted into a functional multi-use arena with football at it's heart, what a fantastic place it could be. But it's a big IF.

[kayahammer]

Just looking at the aerial photos of OS and a thought occurred. If they extend the roof as they would have to to cover the lower seating, or retractable seats if they get installed, then the flood lights would be useless as they'd all shine on top of the new roof.

[RyanWHUFC]

old ch is getting ready for retiment it has been great and have had some brilliant times but you can stick that place up your

I'll go once or twice to see what it's like, I know I probably won't like it so it'll be aways for me hopefully, that's IF we get it though, we might not get it yet mate.

[brownout]

AFC West Ham anyone?

Look at clips of FCUnited on youtube - watching football as it used to be.
Like AFC Wimbledon - owned by fans - a democracy.
Fans don't vote to employ likes of Karen Brady & Fat Sam.

[RichieRiv]

Historically this club have ****ed things up. Just so happens its those dopey porn barons and their attention seeking secretary who are continuing in the rich history of balls up.

Ask the fans? Have they b*llocks.

Few more seasons in the Championship should focus their attention.

[Posh-Hammer]

Sorry Hammer110 I missed the sarcasm, but I now understand what you meant.
Forgive me if I am wrong but wasn't the actual architect of the soulless bowl quoted on radio as saying that it wouldnt be viable to use as a football stadium? If so, can't get any more clearer than the words of the fella who designed it.

[RyanWHUFC]

Ask the fans? Have they b*llocks.

CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNTTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eastsider]

Why all this bile for Brady alone??

She is just an employee... do you realy think she had made the entire decision??
Seems to me a classic case of shooting the messanger?
By the way I am not personally against moving there if it is sorted correctly.....

[hammersk]

Our fans are pitiful.

Always looking to have a go at someone at the club,
often our better players, always the owners.

Success (in both financial and football terms) is to be avoided at all costs.

Now I know who has been booing.

[Larry]

TBH, I can't say I'm jumping for joy at us bidding again I was all for moving into the O.S back before the collapse of the original deal but now because of all the potential obstacles being put in our way I just want us to stay at the Bolyen.

[MEM]

My response was supposed to be sarcasm, not serious! Obviously it failed.

Of course it has a running track, but that doesn't mean it would be impossible to convert it into a stadium if you spent enough money, and I don't think there is anyone on here who is qualified (engineer, architect etc) least that's let themselves be known to say otherwise, whether there is enough money available is a different question.

Most people are looking at an athletics stadium and saying that aint suitable for us, me I am looking at a shell and thinking if it can be converted into a functional multi-use arena with at it's heart, what a fantastic place it could be. But it's a big IF.

Exactly 110 cant really be bothered to get involved in all this negativity anymore but this is what I have said several times before. We are clearly in the driving seat now and the only show in town that can save the governments face in this fiasco. As you say its basically a mechano set shell with little to no internal infrastructure. We should negotiate a short term plan to get it as suitable as possible for our needs, given the time and financial resource available. Perhaps concentrate on one main stand which would accommodate the majority of our current average gate anyway. And then have a medium to long term plan to take full ownership and transform it stand by stand to a stadium that can be temporarily converted back to athletics if and only if, we have to. Like Stade France where I have been several times and has a great atmosphere.

If we cant get the government to agree to that do that then walk away and leave them with with one mega red face. All they will have as I understand it, with only four bidders, is a couple of ticket agencies wanting it for concerts a couple of time a year and Newham council for schools and other events. None of them are going to cover the running costs let alone payback the build costs.

As for all this crap about our spiritual home, its a **** hole, always has been always will be. At least in the past it was at the centre of our fan base and had a good atmosphere but that is not so now. Think forward (not backward) ten years time when LeArse, Spurs, Chelsea, QPR and Crystal Palace will all have new stadia and we will have good old Upton Park and be well down the pecking order in London in terms of status. As a ten year old one of my my first trips to the Bolyen Ground was the 1966 League Cup Final against West Brom, Do I remember the smells the songs, no. All I remember is the mans coat in front of me because I could not see a ferking thing. From then on do I have fond memories of standing in the cage on the West side of the North bank no, or later on the South bank and even later in the corner of the West Stand and South Bank no. Or even later as a season ticket holder in the Chicken Run, Alpari and back to the Chicken run no. It is and always has been a second class stadium, it is in the wrong place and that situation is only going to get worse over time.

Time to look forward, think bold and move on .............IF and its a BIG IF as 110 says ........we can persuade the government that we will only move in on our terms with a stadium fit for us , that we can work towards owning and fully converting to our needs overtime.

And say what you like about the two Dave's and Brady .......can't think of anyone better to argue our case, negotiate hard and get the best deal for everyone attached to our wonderful club .