Mark Noble - West Ham Legend 500 up

The Forum for all football-related discussion, including West Ham United FC. Our busiest Forum and the place to begin if you're new to KUMB.

Moderators: Gnome, last.caress, Wilko1304, Rio, bristolhammerfc, the pink palermo, chalks

Post Reply
User avatar
wizzo_66
Posts: 9639
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:27 pm
Location: Long Live the Boleyn
Has liked: 1 like
Total likes: 32 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by wizzo_66 »

The combo of a Obiang Kouyate as a '2' appears on so many suggested lineups.

I think there is good reason why we haven't seen it.
Crouchend_Hammer
Posts: 26340
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:31 am
Location: Forest Gate
Has liked: 137 likes
Total likes: 2353 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by Crouchend_Hammer »

have those two ever played together as the '2', with a decent RB in place?
I am sure they have, just not sure when
Tbf I am advocating Noble for the team because of what he brings from an experience, determination and grit perspective as much as his actual output on the field
User avatar
Pop Robson
Posts: 17079
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:12 pm
Location: Looking for the 50,000
Has liked: 34 likes
Total likes: 15 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by Pop Robson »

2nd Top Scorer with 19 goals since we got promoted, Mark Noble

1st Andy Carroll 30 goals
User avatar
westham,eggyandchips
Posts: 25138
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:06 pm
Location: On the tour bus
Has liked: 1978 likes
Total likes: 1465 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by westham,eggyandchips »

I'd love to see a "stick or twist" from Kumb on the future of Noble.

The tide seems to have seriously turned on Mark since the start of the season.
HammerAl
Posts: 5091
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:30 pm
Total likes: 397 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by HammerAl »

Pop Robson wrote:2nd Top Scorer with 19 goals since we got promoted, Mark Noble

1st Andy Carroll 30 goals
That is a terrifying stat!
User avatar
WoodgateHammer
Posts: 1954
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:58 am
Location: Formerly OzzHammer

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by WoodgateHammer »

Stats, gotta love em....
User avatar
MB
Cricket's Darren Anderton
Posts: 25148
Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2002 5:13 pm
Has liked: 5555 likes
Total likes: 3053 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by MB »

That stat makes me cry!
Gsbgsb
Posts: 5934
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:43 am
Has liked: 316 likes
Total likes: 749 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by Gsbgsb »

How many of them were penalties? Striker taking the penalties and suddenly his goals record looks a lot better.
sizza
Posts: 390
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:04 pm

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by sizza »

Gsbgsb wrote:How many of them were penalties? Striker taking the penalties and suddenly his goals record looks a lot better.
9/18 goals since the 12/13 season have been penalties
User avatar
WoodgateHammer
Posts: 1954
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:58 am
Location: Formerly OzzHammer

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by WoodgateHammer »

Crouchend_Hammer wrote:i just think for this game we need to go at them with power and pace up top.
Sorry CH, but i disagree here, if we want to go at them with pace, then Noble shouldn't be starting, he slows our game down....come on at the end to see the game out yes, but not start.
User avatar
brooking_1980
Posts: 1444
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:04 am
Has liked: 12 likes
Total likes: 58 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by brooking_1980 »

First time we won a League match minus Noble in around 12 attempts so that's a bad run ended.
User avatar
dodger
Posts: 14679
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:16 pm
Location: Scotland / London / Japan / somewhere in between the 3
Has liked: 277 likes
Total likes: 404 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by dodger »

brooking_1980 wrote:First time we won a League match minus Noble in around 12 attempts so that's a bad run ended.
:? No it isn't. In fact we won the last league match we played without him - 2-1 at Burnley.
User avatar
dodger
Posts: 14679
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:16 pm
Location: Scotland / London / Japan / somewhere in between the 3
Has liked: 277 likes
Total likes: 404 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by dodger »

Colours never run wrote: That's why I've said for a while now its important we play with 3 in midfield which allows Obiang to sit more and protect the back line and sees a pass and makes it, Noble more licence to get higher up the pitch effecting play and Kouyate to be the legs in the middle. It's a nice balanced midfield trio that works to their strengths whilst taking into account their weaknesses.
Lots of problems with this idea.
1. Makes it difficult to ever play with three at the back.
2. We'd have to sacrifice one of our best attacking players (Lanzini, Antonio or Arnie) to get all three central midfielders in.
3. Noble cannot play a more advanced role as he offers little threat either creatively or in terms of scoring. He also just isn't quick enough or skillful enough to do it.

We saw the benefits today of having two athletic figures in central midfield today. Noble's number is up unfortunately, although I hope we use him late in matches sometimes to sure things up.
User avatar
kayahammer
Posts: 6443
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:59 am
Location: East of Eden
Total likes: 5 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by kayahammer »

Nobes played his socks off every week when he wanted to get in the squad for Euro 2016. Since he was overlooked he's not been the same player. Maybe a coincidence, or maybe not, but he seems to have lost half a yard of sharpness and his indecision at times is frustrating.

We all love Nobes and his loyalty to the club, but to me he is becoming a liability with his sideways and backwards tendencies.

Still an important member of the squad/team, but maybe because of his slowing he could be more of a sub to shore things up when we're winning by a single goal.
User avatar
S-H
Posts: 49112
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:05 am
Location: Kumb Inn
Has liked: 5737 likes
Total likes: 9649 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by S-H »

Still has a massive role to play, in terms of the squad, he is our leader!

But I struggle to see how he gets back into the starting 11 in the near future.

Hopefully it'll be a little kick up the backside and gentle reminder that he needs to up his game, same applies to the rest of the players left out, injured or suspended.
User avatar
westham,eggyandchips
Posts: 25138
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:06 pm
Location: On the tour bus
Has liked: 1978 likes
Total likes: 1465 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by westham,eggyandchips »

Looked pretty glum sitting in the stands last night. Obviously some of that would be down to being injured for a key match. Him, like us are struggling to see where he'll fit into this formation and team after last night.
User avatar
snooperpooper
Posts: 1901
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:39 pm
Has liked: 160 likes
Total likes: 158 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by snooperpooper »

If Bilic tries to shoe-horn him back in after the energy and passion and speed of that team last night then he really does need to go.

MN is now officially in the Nolan role for me, starter in lesser games to rest the first team, sub as required in bigger games, club captain and doing his badges in the interim.

Or a transfer out to Ipswich or Fulham in the January window.
User avatar
miles
This site...
Posts: 4464
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:56 am
Has liked: 303 likes
Total likes: 383 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by miles »

An average 68 percent pass completion rate like yesterday will lead to disaster sooner or later. Once things have calmed down a little he must be straight back in the side.
bbhammer
Posts: 46
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:44 pm

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by bbhammer »

miles wrote:An average 68 percent pass completion rate like yesterday will lead to disaster sooner or later. Once things have calmed down a little he must be straight back in the side.

Can't believe you didn't notice how much quicker we moved the ball about without him.

Great player,Legend yes but times caught up with him unfortunately
User avatar
dodger
Posts: 14679
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:16 pm
Location: Scotland / London / Japan / somewhere in between the 3
Has liked: 277 likes
Total likes: 404 likes

Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Post by dodger »

miles wrote:An average 68 percent pass completion rate like yesterday will lead to disaster sooner or later. Once things have calmed down a little he must be straight back in the side.
Difficult to comprehend posts like this.

Last night we played considerably better, and for once we were not overrun in midfield. We didn't have pointless possession, in fact we had less possession but comfortably more chances. If we bring Noble back all that will happen is that the the pass completion will go up because of lots of passes backwards and sideways.

Let me put it more simply since you seem to like statistics. Our last five league matches:
With Noble: Won 0, lost 3. Without Noble: Won 2, lost 0.
How about we at least see how it goes without him for a while? If we are crap in central midfield and he comes back and does great good for him, but at the moment I really can't believe some people still want to shoehorn him straight back in after a perfectly good performance without him.
Post Reply