Exactly right. The board engineered it very well to make an enemy of the best player we have had for a while. The joke is on usHugh Jargon II wrote: We've had it by the way. Nobody can revive this lot. Awful bunch. Payet was right to abandon ship.
West Ham United 1-4 Liverpool (04/11/17)
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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread
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We started each half o.k, but when you concede goals in the manor that we do, you have no chance. Truly woeful defending, and as bad as it gets.
We have players with no fight, no confidence, no fitness, no motivation, and they look tactically clueless.
We have players with no fight, no confidence, no fitness, no motivation, and they look tactically clueless.
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He played On his own in the middle for large chunks of the game.Peaches wrote:Can't believe how bad Obiang has been. Starting to make Noble look good.
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Ive seen some poor Hammers sides over the years but this one is awful
Today, basic errors from all the players. Tactics and formation was all wrong. The only player with any 'legs' in that starting 11 was Kouyate. He should've been the midfield general, in place of Noble, and Rice brought in at CB. No pace at all in the team. None. Without Antonio, it has to be the slowest West Ham team in history.
Obiang and Fernandes couldn't have played worse if they tried. They were dreadful. Noble is clearly finished at this level.
But the biggest disappointment for me was Reid. He was absolutely terrible, but just seems to blame everybody else.
The players were awful, the manager got it wrong, and if we were playing Man City today I honestly believe they'd have scored 10
Today, basic errors from all the players. Tactics and formation was all wrong. The only player with any 'legs' in that starting 11 was Kouyate. He should've been the midfield general, in place of Noble, and Rice brought in at CB. No pace at all in the team. None. Without Antonio, it has to be the slowest West Ham team in history.
Obiang and Fernandes couldn't have played worse if they tried. They were dreadful. Noble is clearly finished at this level.
But the biggest disappointment for me was Reid. He was absolutely terrible, but just seems to blame everybody else.
The players were awful, the manager got it wrong, and if we were playing Man City today I honestly believe they'd have scored 10
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If I was Obiang I woukd be on the blower to my agent to get him out of here
Pretty much asked to play as a sole central midfielder week in week and out.
Yes, he could break out in a sprint now and again, but he is being left hanging out to dry week in week out
Pretty much asked to play as a sole central midfielder week in week and out.
Yes, he could break out in a sprint now and again, but he is being left hanging out to dry week in week out
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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread
Awful amateurish defending again. I thought I'd never see this 'swarm of bees' type defending since infant footballing days. Wow , talk about ball watching !!! This took it to another extreme. We deserved nothing from that game.
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Change 'Obiang' to 'Lanzini' and I'd agree with you.Crouchend_Hammer wrote:If I was Obiang I woukd be on the blower to my agent to get him out of here
Pretty much asked to play as a sole central midfielder week in week and out.
Yes, he could break out in a sprint now and again, but he is being left hanging out to dry week in week out
Pedro was rubbish mate. Awful.
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Come on guys. We were up against Liverpool, one of the big 5 or 6 teams.
We did as well as we could considering the circumstances. Slav to stay and we will pick up soon!
We did as well as we could considering the circumstances. Slav to stay and we will pick up soon!
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Crouchend_Hammer wrote:If I was Obiang I woukd be on the blower to my agent to get him out of here
Pretty much asked to play as a sole central midfielder week in week and out.
Yes, he could break out in a sprint now and again, but he is being left hanging out to dry week in week out
Reid, Fernandes, Cresswell comfortably worse too.
Imagine if we actually had someone like Carvalho to play alongside Pedro - we may not have a midfield that is utterly porous.
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I trust many of you had a wager on the Ox scoring his first league goal for Liverpool, against us?
Nailed on really, wasn't it?
Nailed on really, wasn't it?
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It would have been better but it wouldn’t have solved the problem. We are dreadful without the ball. Soft and not interested in pressing.hammer1975 wrote:.
Imagine if we actually had someone like Carvalho to play alongside Pedro - we may not have a midfield that is utterly porous.
We sat off and let them play tonight. If they have been bothered to get out of second gear then it would have been 7 or 8 tonight. You could put Kante in our line up and it wouldn’t matter if the whole team doesn’t play with energy or shape.
We were decent with the ball again tonight but not interested in doing the hard graft when they had it.
Has been like this for two years. A DMC on its own won’t solve this.
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What about Brighton? Newcastle? 2nd half battering against Palace?kenthammer1984 wrote:Come on guys. We were up against Liverpool, one of the big 5 or 6 teams.
We did as well as we could considering the circumstances. Slav to stay and we will pick up soon!
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If Lanzini gets the moves he obviously wants, he won't last five minutes unless he seriously ups his work rate and effort. He woukd not survive five minutes under Klopp, Mourinho, Pocchettino or Conte
The difference in effort and application between him and firmono/ salah/ sane was like night and day
These top players aren't where they are simply because of their ability, it is down to their effort and work rate.
The difference in effort and application between him and firmono/ salah/ sane was like night and day
These top players aren't where they are simply because of their ability, it is down to their effort and work rate.
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A sad fact has emerged. Our old guard has had it.
Bilic inherited a handful of players who had done well before he arrived, in Reid, Kouyate, Noble and Cresswell. Carroll and Sakho were also around before him, but are obviously much less dependable. Still, with Adrian, that was half a team onto which Bilic could have built something.
To these eyes, he's added Lanzini as an evergreen of optimism, in three years.
Defensively, this team is week in, week out, at sixes and sevens. Reid's new contract is madness. Cresswell has faded.
People are moving around Noble too easily. He literally cannot keep up.
To concede our second and third so soon after other goals speaks of an utter absence of any leader on the pitch.
That was woeful.
Bilic inherited a handful of players who had done well before he arrived, in Reid, Kouyate, Noble and Cresswell. Carroll and Sakho were also around before him, but are obviously much less dependable. Still, with Adrian, that was half a team onto which Bilic could have built something.
To these eyes, he's added Lanzini as an evergreen of optimism, in three years.
Defensively, this team is week in, week out, at sixes and sevens. Reid's new contract is madness. Cresswell has faded.
People are moving around Noble too easily. He literally cannot keep up.
To concede our second and third so soon after other goals speaks of an utter absence of any leader on the pitch.
That was woeful.
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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread
did his best to f*** it up too. hit it straight at the keeper twice in a row and got lucky it went through him the second time.Samba wrote:I trust many of you had a wager on the Ox scoring his first league goal for Liverpool, against us?
Nailed on really, wasn't it?
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Positives:
- thought Ogbonna did alright.
Worst thing about today:
- we're about to hire David Moyes.
- thought Ogbonna did alright.
Worst thing about today:
- we're about to hire David Moyes.
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YepSamba wrote:I trust many of you had a wager on the Ox scoring his first league goal for Liverpool, against us?
Nailed on really, wasn't it?
Berahino next
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Time to get used to the Championship again folks as that is where we are heading back to. All bar Lanzini & Hart look like they are eyeing up next years' summer holiday already. Bilic for Moyes - haha :lol: From the board down the club is a shambles and then all the way back up again. Sad times.