Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
It just goes to show how out of touch with the fan base he is, should have put his arm around the fella and gave him empathy. The last thing I wanted to see was the Captain be aggressive to a supporter of this club.
I thinks its too easy to go down the "he could have had a weapon" approach, its clear he didn't.
I thinks its too easy to go down the "he could have had a weapon" approach, its clear he didn't.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
There's 2 things here.
1) What you do
2) How it looks
He's angry, `1-0 down and he's trying to focus his team, OUR team to get back in the game.
Some tit starts doing a dance around the centre circle so Noble (as Captain) takes charge cos the stewards are sleeping. He pushes him. Doesn't punch him. He just wants him off so we can get back in the game.
Many watching think it's OTT and that's their right to think that.
I say give him a break.
1) What you do
2) How it looks
He's angry, `1-0 down and he's trying to focus his team, OUR team to get back in the game.
Some tit starts doing a dance around the centre circle so Noble (as Captain) takes charge cos the stewards are sleeping. He pushes him. Doesn't punch him. He just wants him off so we can get back in the game.
Many watching think it's OTT and that's their right to think that.
I say give him a break.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
really have no idea what that says..other than you spend more time posting on here than me....did you read something further than that....not sure age has any bearing??? agenda driven??..so your a conspiracy theoristBend it like Repka wrote: Quite interesting that those posts which have been most disparaging about Noble, especially the ones who mock him for being "Mr West Ham" or "One of our own" are nearly all from posters only in triple figures, and many in just the few hundreds.
I don't know if that is coincidence, age related or some other more agenda driven reason....
i was at the game and have made a comment.....everything about west ham at the moment seems to make me a tad angry and reactionary....but thats what happens when as somebody else put.....what you do and how you do it especially when things are a bit **** are under the microscope.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
There really isn't any place for that level of sensible discussion on here you know JonJon wrote:There's 2 things here.
1) What you do
2) How it looks
He's angry, `1-0 down and he's trying to focus his team, OUR team to get back in the game.
Some tit starts doing a dance around the centre circle so Noble (as Captain) takes charge cos the stewards are sleeping. He pushes him. Doesn't punch him. He just wants him off so we can get back in the game.
Many watching think it's OTT and that's their right to think that.
I say give him a break.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
Right or wrong, I'm not sure it's really that important.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
Agreed Jon. Easy to judge him badly, but one incident in the heat of the moment shouldn't have our fans digging him out.Jon wrote:
I say give him a break.
It wasn't a smart move by him, but not worth some of the vitriol sent in his direction.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
Exactly. It's why a 'yes/no' poll is too reductive, there's just more to it. It would have been better if he hadn't done it, but it was an understandable action.Jon wrote:
Many watching think it's OTT and that's their right to think that.
I say give him a break.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
Noble chose to take the law into his own hands and commit what was effectively an assault on the fan who was no threat to him. He should have been sent off on the spot. The fan encroaching in the field was no excuse for Noble to try out his bouncer skills.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
I will always respect Mark for what he is and has been for West Ham.
Although I think he was a bit over the top I can understand that all he wanted to do was get on with salvaging a football match. He lost his rag as he feels a responsibilty to do what is right on the pitch for the sake of the game.
Although I don't agree with waht he did, I do get it and to be honest he won't go down in my estimations at all.
A heat of the moment action which is not directed entirely on our fans.
Although I think he was a bit over the top I can understand that all he wanted to do was get on with salvaging a football match. He lost his rag as he feels a responsibilty to do what is right on the pitch for the sake of the game.
Although I don't agree with waht he did, I do get it and to be honest he won't go down in my estimations at all.
A heat of the moment action which is not directed entirely on our fans.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
At 1-0 and desperately trying to pick up points, you expected the club captain to laugh and give the bloke a cuddle while the game stopped?rare as rockinghorse shat wrote:No.
He acted like a twat and spoke like a **** who is in the pockets of the chairman.
Absolutely plummeted in respect levels.
AND to slag off G&S afterwards? He basically took the same line as Trevor Brooking.
I’d rather a captain who was livid in this scenario than one who seemed amused
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
I agree with that.
And I would also wonder where we go next, as fans, if the people who are truly unhappy with how he acted will not be able perhaps to chalk it up as a bad mark on an otherwise decent record and let him move on.
If we have beef with stadium, owners and the captain, there's not that much left to support.
And I would also wonder where we go next, as fans, if the people who are truly unhappy with how he acted will not be able perhaps to chalk it up as a bad mark on an otherwise decent record and let him move on.
If we have beef with stadium, owners and the captain, there's not that much left to support.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
Fa cup game at the Boleyn Mark picked up Herrera and carried him off to stop him slowing the game down and was widely applauded for it. He reacted in a similar fashion to the fan - I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt that it was out of frustration at going behind and the desire to get back into the game.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
[/quote]Quite interesting that those posts which have been most disparaging about Noble, especially the ones who mock him for being "Mr West Ham" or "One of our own" are nearly all from posters only in triple figures, and many in just the few hundreds.
I don't know if that is coincidence, age related or some other more agenda driven reason....[/quote]
I have absolutely no clue what you're on about. But well done you for having over 9000 posts. You're such a great fan. If I told you I have had a season ticket for 28 years you'd tell me you had 29 no doubt.
'Mr West Ham' has assaulted a west ham fan at the end of the day. If he 'got' us he'd have dealt with it differently. He behaved disgracefully and his post match comments belie that it was heat of the moment. If I was old bill I'd charge the tw*t
Your post makes no sense and just because it makes up one more of your 9000 posts it doesn't make it anymore valid than anyone elses.
People seem blind to anything he does because he's from E16. Doesnt wash with me, sorry. Captain Slow has got away with many inadequacies on the back of this.
I don't know if that is coincidence, age related or some other more agenda driven reason....[/quote]
I have absolutely no clue what you're on about. But well done you for having over 9000 posts. You're such a great fan. If I told you I have had a season ticket for 28 years you'd tell me you had 29 no doubt.
'Mr West Ham' has assaulted a west ham fan at the end of the day. If he 'got' us he'd have dealt with it differently. He behaved disgracefully and his post match comments belie that it was heat of the moment. If I was old bill I'd charge the tw*t
Your post makes no sense and just because it makes up one more of your 9000 posts it doesn't make it anymore valid than anyone elses.
People seem blind to anything he does because he's from E16. Doesnt wash with me, sorry. Captain Slow has got away with many inadequacies on the back of this.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
He was wrong.......Ginge didn't do it and IMO Bonzo wouldn't have done it. I believe he lost his head out of frustration at the fact they were all playing like they didn't care.
I like him although I think he's lucky we've bought some dross or he'd be getting splinters in his arse.
I like him although I think he's lucky we've bought some dross or he'd be getting splinters in his arse.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
I can only guess what's going through his head at the minute. Let's not forget that he was probably sold the same garbage we were and I'd also hazard a guess he feels a bit of a twat for his "not run like a circus" statement
He knows what's goin on in the background with the board, their unfulfilled promises and their lies. Him and his family are West Ham so they must be seething. A lot of his mates may well have been in the ground, some may even have been on the "stroll". Let's not kid ourselves, he must be hurting more than anyone else on the payroll.
However, a sensible approach would have been to calm the bloke down, do what Collins did and speak to the fella. He has no doubt hated playing in that stadium as much as a lot of us hate attending. We needed a win, a positive performance and all of a sudden we are losing and the crowd are getting heated. He has lashed out uncontrollably and I'd imagine totally regrets it.
Do I love his passion ? You bet I do. Do I reckon he made a mistake on Saturday ? Yes.
However hopefully his passion will have rubbed off on teammates prior to Southampton as lose that and we are without question down in my book.
He knows what's goin on in the background with the board, their unfulfilled promises and their lies. Him and his family are West Ham so they must be seething. A lot of his mates may well have been in the ground, some may even have been on the "stroll". Let's not kid ourselves, he must be hurting more than anyone else on the payroll.
However, a sensible approach would have been to calm the bloke down, do what Collins did and speak to the fella. He has no doubt hated playing in that stadium as much as a lot of us hate attending. We needed a win, a positive performance and all of a sudden we are losing and the crowd are getting heated. He has lashed out uncontrollably and I'd imagine totally regrets it.
Do I love his passion ? You bet I do. Do I reckon he made a mistake on Saturday ? Yes.
However hopefully his passion will have rubbed off on teammates prior to Southampton as lose that and we are without question down in my book.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
He's been nicking a living out of West Ham for years for being, well, West Ham. If he was Johnny foreigner he'd have been vilified by the myopics on here. Very,. Very average player. There's a reason why he's still at West ham and its not loyalty
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
Two grown men have done a pair of questionable things.Lt. Discussion wrote:'Mr West Ham' has assaulted a west ham fan at the end of the day..
One did it having thought it through and knocked up a slogan on a soppy bit of old A3. He was in fact breaking the law, stepping on the field of play.
The other reacted, in a second, and knocked Bambi, and his unfolded scrap of paper, to the floor.
I thought this was a working class sport FFS! Its a bit bruised egos all round to be reaching for terms like 'assault', Shirley?
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
2 things:e17 wrote:At 1-0 and desperately trying to pick up points, you expected the club captain to laugh and give the bloke a cuddle while the game stopped?
AND to slag off G&S afterwards? He basically took the same line as Trevor Brooking.
I’d rather a captain who was livid in this scenario than one who seemed amused
No one is saying he should be amused or have a laugh - that's your interpretation of the opposite action.
Mine is that he could have dealt with it with more tact - like what Collins did and has been roundly applauded for - to try to appease the bloke and diffuse the situation.
'Look, I know you're frustrated, but let us play and try to get this game back' sort of thing.
Secondly, there are two ways to skin a cat. No one is saying he should slag off the owners, again, that's your interpretation of the opposite action.
He is media trained, they all are. He didn't need to take strides to support the protest, nor go against the owners.
But, what I don't accept, is his undermining of the whole thing by suggesting it was something as simple as losing games. He KNOWS it isn't that and knows better how we feel.
His actions on the pitch were a bit stupid and twatty. Collins showed him how he could have handled it.
His words after were despicable and befitting someone who is under manners with the owners and has been roundly told how to fall in to line.
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
Can't have fans running on the pitch at anytime! For whatever reason!
Players safety first! who was that female tennis player who got stabbed by a fan?
Players safety first! who was that female tennis player who got stabbed by a fan?
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Re: Was Noble right to do what he did? [POLL]
Undecided but willing to give him the benefit of some doubt, it was a pretty unique situation all-round.