West Ham Utd 3-0 Southampton (31/03/18)

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby MB on Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:44 am

Puff Daddy wrote:I notice many of the team formations from posters, but tell me, why play just the one up front, when we have to win the ****ing game ?


Because you have to have the ball to score unless we plan to hoof it up to Hugill or use the pace (we don’t have) on the break. It always comes back to the weakness in midfield for me. It limits our options.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Puff Daddy on Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:51 am

MB wrote:
Because you have to have the ball to score unless we plan to hoof it up to Hugill or use the pace (we don’t have) on the break. It always comes back to the weakness in midfield for me. It limits our options.


I think hoofing it up is our best chance of getting a result. Since we haven't any players who can retain possession of the ball, hoofing is our only realistic option. Long live hoofing
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby MB on Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:10 am

Which would be fine Puff if our best attacking options weren’t all ball on the floor types. We need Kouyate in the “Fellani” role for that style to be effective (as we saw when Moyes came in) but we cannot have him that far forward now unless we throw Cullen in. Doing that limits the number of attackers we can get on the pitch. It is a complete mess which needed dealing with in January.

Moyes clearly doesn’t think Hugill is up to it.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Puff Daddy on Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:19 am

MB wrote:Which would be fine Puff if our best attacking options weren’t all ball on the floor types. We need Kouyate in the “Fellani” role for that style to be effective (as we saw when Moyes came in) but we cannot have him that far forward now unless we throw Cullen in. Doing that limits the number of attackers we can get on the pitch. It is a complete mess which needed dealing with in January.

Moyes clearly doesn’t think Hugill is up to it.


Personally. I think we should just throw him in and hope for the best. It has got to the point now, where it is almost irrelevant whether he plays or not, as we have nothing to lose. Just chuck him and keep everything crossed
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby hammerman11 on Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:13 am

we need to win this and be on the front foot however Southampton have some pace on the break and will cause us problems. forget 3 at the back as we ship goals whatever formation we play !

Hernandez has to start as hes our best striker.
Adrian back for the clown
Cullen in for kouyate who has been poor
lanzini on bench as poor recently
Arthur back as we need some pace and threat.

adrian
zabaleta collins ogbonna cresswell
antonio noble cullen masuaka
arnie hernandez

subs hart rice lanzini kouyate mario hughill haksagbonovic


we have a few options on the bench and can change antonio after 60 mins with lanzini as he will be blowing by then.
kouyate on for cullen if necessary
rice for ginger if needed

no idea whether we will turn up or still be on holiday in miami
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Scratchy on Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:53 pm

Why do we have 3 weeks without a game? That's a bit of a joke really.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby PK on Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:21 pm

Scratchy wrote:Why do we have 3 weeks without a game? That's a bit of a joke really.


Because Man Utd were in the FA Cup Quarter Finals & the International break - not much we can do about it.
A few prem teams also have 3 weeks without a game.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby bubbles500 on Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:46 pm

Very interesting to see Southampton today. I fear we may see a totally different team. On paper that squad should be top half.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Jumby on Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:52 pm

bubbles500 wrote:Very interesting to see Southampton today. I fear we may see a totally different team. On paper that squad should be top half.


They were, last season, and reaching cup finals, apparently that was boring though so they got rid of Puel, who is now mid table with Leicester.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Beavis Danzig on Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:27 pm

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby DDHammer on Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:24 pm

Southampton have a much better back 7 than us and a decent front set of players. We'll be pressed hard and make sloppy passes before losing 3-1, bring on the Championship and the dismemberment of the Triple *****.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Westbourne Bill on Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:38 pm

I’d guess the only game left where we’d be bookies favourites to win now would be Stoke...and that could change by then.
Talk of Charlie Austin being fit for it too. You can imagine him putting Sullivan firmly in his place after those “no ligaments” comments.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Puff Daddy on Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:43 pm

Westbourne Bill wrote:I’d guess the only game left where we’d be bookies favourites to win now would be Stoke...and that could change by then.
Talk of Charlie Austin being fit for it too. You can imagine him putting Sullivan firmly in his place after those “no ligaments” comments.


Ooh ****. Guess we'd better make atmosphere as toxic as possible then
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Adam 'The Smudge' on Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:51 pm

Can see us winning this comfortably (strange I know) and all the resentment in the world will fade and die, just like our bubbles.
Back to square 1.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby il_martello_di_genovesi on Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:52 pm

Beavis Danzig wrote:they're favourites now: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/en ... ton/winner" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They always were mate...only slight, but our first set of prices had Southampton as slight favs anyway. The market has always rated Southampton, more so than us. The year we were chasing the top 4, we were 11/4 at home to them, (We won 2-1) and they would be odds on at home to us. They are probably a bit better than us anyway. Certainly squad wise. The amount of goals we concede is why we will start to be bigger prices against teams around us...simply because we are giving away so many clear cut chances.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby the celestial insect on Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:14 pm

If we can match Wigan's guile in the first half, we'll win. Therein lies the problem. We're going to need 100% desire.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby BondsoBob on Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:28 pm

It seems that most feel we're going to lose this one and therefore the Championship beckons.
I don't blame Moyes entirely for this scenario, but he was never the man for the job.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Puff Daddy on Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:39 pm

BondsoBob wrote:It seems that most feel we're going to lose this one and therefore the Championship beckons.
I don't blame Moyes entirely for this scenario, but he was never the man for the job.


No he wasn't, but he is not blameless, far from it, for the predicament we now find ourselves in. He is singularly responsible for how his team is set up, the negative tactics, always assuming we actually have any at all and being so languid in starting matches and I really don't get his one up top infatuation, especially at home to teams around and about us
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Hugh Jargon II on Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:45 pm

We have no chance. Hughes will know exactly what to do. It's not too hard.
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Postby Hatcham Iron on Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:26 pm

Hugh Jargon II wrote:We have no chance. Hughes will know exactly what to do. It's not too hard.

Spot on hugh We've been sussed out a team the big majority of them too old hasbeens
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